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the dl cannot use 2 swords
It would be good add 2 sword for DL´S for example Mok,AA,Spacers..
It's time to make a change in the server and it's fun see the DL with 2 swords I think it's good idea..

I hope to see your comments guys :D




pd: I remember to all sorry for my bad english
 
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Good idea's time to have a strategy of attack on the dl thanks for your suggestion cristian

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No, I cannot support this. Do you know, how big changes that make? I've used character log-in bug to use 2 DL scepters in other server I played before this, DL got insanely stronger. If DL had 2 scepters here, that would mean, that DL is the strongest character to play, BK could nearly get close to DL if he was aware of the attack. Adding second handed scepter wouldn't seem to have that much of an impact, but it does, so it simply cannot happen. I remember back in 2011 infinity had this character bug and it was mostly used to get additional attack speed to BK, but I never tried it, same with DL. Anyway, this isn't something, that should happen.
 
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honestly as it stands right now after all the updates on sets and weapon i've tried some and seen some DL vs BK...
i do agree on powering DLs a bit to be able to fight BKs again but only to that point...
another weapon on a DL seems far too much...and besides if you take away the shield from the DL...do you honestly believe it can hold its ground...
 

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honestly as it stands right now after all the updates on sets and weapon i've tried some and seen some DL vs BK...
i do agree on powering DLs a bit to be able to fight BKs again but only to that point...
another weapon on a DL seems far too much...and besides if you take away the shield from the DL...do you honestly believe it can hold its ground...
I would agree with Harry
Because if you take away it's shield it will suffer unsustainable damage,which won't make up for the 2 weapons.
If it can be powered a bit it would be awesome as well,it has to stand up at least a bit to the BK,now it seems it's weaker than it usually was
 

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I think its not a bad idea. Asuming that DLs as they are now barely hold against BKs if they dont have swell.I think that this would be interesting. Right now a DL without swell survives only a few combos. With swell they have a chance to kill but if the BK is good that rarely happens. If you make them with 2 swords, ofc they would die much quicker without swell but with swell they might actually have a chance of killing the BK. Also, a DL with swell will surely die from a BK with crit, but if the said DL has 2 swords then it would actually have a shot at kiling his opponent.
 
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No, guys. This wouldn't make any kind of balance in the game. I have TRIED this out. And DL with swell against BK with crit isn't bad, as some stated. BK and DL with fair duel, both with 2 buffs, they can both put up a good fight, and in fair fight with only their own buffs, DL still can destroy BK. Do you even DL bro's? 2 maces makes major difference in the damage and DL without shield is useless. Firstly, -7% of DDR from yellow opt, secondly, the shield itself, of course, he would have more power because of mixed yellows on both maces, but I doubt the fact of that being helpful in any way to improve the PvP. Those who agree, you don't even consider disadvantages of that, you think only about advantages, basically you think DL will become OP, but he won't. Direct attacks will destroy his ass. Now DL can withstand attacks of 2 BK's, if he is good enough at potting and so on, then he wouldn't stand against 1. I think I made myself clear, so did Lelouch and DimER. DL is underrated in this thread. He isn't nearly as bad as you think, you just have to master him, watch Brain.Dead, watch *KoNaTa*, and there was one more DL which name I forgot, haven't seen him in a while, but he just destroyed me in duel using different mixes of Uber's than usual. Don't search for excuses and improvements in system, find them, they are already there.

I just felt like you all needed some more explanation, that is why I replied again.
 

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BK and DL with fair duel, both with 2 buffs, they can both put up a good fight, and in fair fight with only their own buffs, DL still can destroy BK.

Let me stop you right there. That is not true at all lol. Every single time i see a good BK fight vs a DL even if the BK doesnt have crit, he still wins. Why? Because DLs lack the damage needed to kill a good BK. Now how will 2 maces help? That is the point. They will both help and not help. They will help because the chance of the BK dying becomes bigger, they wont help because the DL will die easily. That is balance. Now i usually dont play DL because it is weak in my opinon but i have fought against a lot of DLs and even sometimes when the DL has elf buff+ swell, i still own him and not only me a lot of players can win vs a buffed DL as well. My point is that i have also been here for a long time( 2007 started with a lot of pauses) and i have been here with that DL/BK and i will be honest i did try it a few times. All im saying is that this would be an interesting change.
 
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Yah, sure, if it makes you sleep better at night. You don't play DL, because you think he is weak, you have tried him few times and suddenly you become and expert on improving DL. I won't reply anymore, I have said everything there is to be said, and believe it or not, you just have to explore DL and master it and everything will be fine, it's not the BK players that are so skilled to kill all DL's, it's the DL players not getting the DL. Those, who get DL and doesn't cry about him being weak, can't be killed like bugs.
 

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You guys can expect updates on ancient items of Dark Lord but not having 2 weapons at the same time. :) Dark Lords should stand with shield and scepter.
 

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didn't this happen a long time ago and made DL op??

no.
 

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Ask my mom. She probably knows.
As if DL's with horse + swell and their firescream are not enough pain in the a$$ to kill.. Imagine they got full buff with that. It's a stuff of nightmare. Sorry but a rather terrible suggestion although +1 for the thought of trying to power them up lol. Agree on RESiSTANT's side on altering the ancient options for DL cause some time ago I also think that it needs some reworks too
 

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You can approach to this situation from 2 sides . Side 1 it is about to make a bug due to before and even now it is counting as a bug and follows a ban procedure.
I'm sure there is such an obvious reason for that why it is not allowed . From another point of view , it will be minus for Dark Lords since shield is the only that protect them from easy-dying.
Since there is a pot-delay + Defense is low somehow , even if you think it will be plus for DLs believe it will not. There had been made such thread before as far as i remember , someone touched the
burden with 2 scepts ...
 

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You guys can expect updates on ancient items of Dark Lord but not having 2 weapons at the same time. :) Dark Lords should stand with shield and scepter.
mmm.. update acient items mmm ok good,im waiting for the update
 

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Answers here:

http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthr...bug-abusing-January-17-2012&highlight=weapons

Dark Lords are NOT allowed to use any kind of 2 Weapons together.


Soul Masters are NOT allowed to use 2 Staffs at the same time.


http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthread.php?38182-DL-scepter-1sword-application&highlight=weapons

it's BUG,ORIGINALLY DL/LE CAN'T WEAR 2 WEAPONS,that's how WebZen configured it!,so obviously DL with 2 Weapons is bug abusing and unfair

if you want 2 Weapons to be allowed then ask WebZen to re-configure the DL/LE :)

http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthread.php?37707-is-this-probihited&highlight=weapons
 

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1)yes it is in the game rules but those can be changed :)
It was a sugestion not an abuse
2)ask webzen to do what??? Rly??? I think we have some 2 handed weapons configured as 1handed:) i dont think web zen agreed to that to be honest.

I treat this as a suggestion, good or bad it's an idea and i do appreciate ppl that step up and care to contribute with something.

Regarding the topic, i dont think its worth doing it because other ballance tweaks would also be needed after doing it.
Ballancing pvp experience is done mostly by editing the characthers defense formula, damage formula and so on. Not with big changes such as this. Therefor i think it will have a big impact on the gameplay and it may affect it alot.
 
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