Discussion Demotion without reason

Icebreaker · May 27th , 2014

hi there guys, as you all know i have been demoted from the gm team by Harren i guess without any warning or notification or reason.
in the staff updates it says that i resigned by personal problems or inactivity.

i'm going to be honest in here, i haven't been inactive these days, i'm the whole day online or at least almost the whole day, at game i'm always asking if someone needs help or not, ask the people and you will see.

Harren this goes for you, you've demoted me without any notice, i know that you wanted to demoted me once you got your hgm because you hates me so much, but we are not kids to do things like this, work is work.. i'm always doing my work in here, im a gm not a mod, my activity bar is 20% because i'm always checking the reports, if im not check my latest posts.. also, about my demotion.. don't be a liar, i haven't been demoted by personal issues, i haven't been demoted by inactivity because i haven't been inactive, i have been demoted because you wanted to and don't tell me that i'm wrong because if we go for actives dutys, let's talk about your last event in game 20th may was your last in game event, and mine was few days ago.. also i haven't seen you in game from a looong time.

let's be honest, i'm here to get my tag again since i haven't been inactive in here, if i have been, ask to the community

thank you,
Icebreaker
Game Master Team member

TechN9ne · May 27th , 2014

In this case i should support Hector cuz its not right thing to demote just for not being active as everyone else, more or less. GMs who have job, school or any other concerns in their personal lives should not be treated like that cuz its above GM duties.
Im not against you nor your decision Nik but just i can understand Hector cuz im in the same situation but im still trying to manage 100x forums, even hardly but.. im not being judged by no one
Hope you guys solve your problems

Titan · May 27th , 2014

The Game Masters activity is not revealed what shows here the Activity bar. That is for Moderators.
If u says that u were active ingame, and u didnt recieved any warning, any Private message, any message, just got instantly demoted, thats not cool.
I allways PMed the GMs who got low activity or anything, tried to solve together the priblems, never kicked them out from the team, i tought it would be disrespect towards a team mate. I asked him to resign if he cannot handle the gm job and come back any time, or tried to solve the problem. Not easy to have a trustful, good hearted gm like u, i allways liked to work with you, old-school GM, im sad u got demoted. Ure still GM for us, dont worry

Kenya · May 27th , 2014

When you have any problem or disagree with your superior, go to anyone superior than he/she.
I know you´re furious, cuz as you´re saying, you should be.
But you´re making a big scene dude xDD..
Calm down and talk to Resi when you see it online.
If this is for you, dont bring it to a public section.
Check the forum, wanna report staff, do it, wanna report injustice, report it with the superior.
I dont know what´s really happen, so good luck.

HARREN · May 27th , 2014

I wouldn't demote someone just because I ,,hate,, someone. I don't hate you there's no reason for it, but seems it's from your side. You split here now nonsense things about me, my ingame activity well I have also updated my inactivity thread that I might be inactive till 3rd june because of personal reasons and upcoming driving license test, but that doesn't mean I don't check how are the GMs doing and you are doing from all the GMs MINIMUM of your job. Your activity at Reports is 0% you haven't helped us from when I joined the GM team this time absolutely no interest in it, If I have to start speak about your ingame activity with events, yes you have done few days ago, but the late events? there's 1 week pauses. You come in forum twice a day more of opened reports but from you not even post.
Last time I PMed you about your activity you replied me in way ,,Who are you to say that i'm inactive when i'm not,, This is your respect to your leader? I haven't said to you anything bad just to fix you activity and if you can't handle to resign and you will be welcomed back once again you can be fully active. You can ask EVERY simple GM of this community that will say you are not active.
I have PMed RESiSTANT about your activity and about your reply when I PMed you to fix your activity and I suggested him to demote you because me myself wouldn't do it, as I said I wouldn't repeat such mistake I did in past, I'm trying to keep the Game Master active as much as I can, but you are lost case, zero respect to me and don't want me to continue.
Latest posts = Spam,Spam, some useful, spam spam, I can continue if you want. You banned one guy today at morning and warned one but your latest action was I don't really know when. You rarely also log in GM panel for anything when I see other GMs logs there everyday.

If you wish something else to be explained just let me or RESiSTANT know, I'm still not for it to you be back in.

Icebreaker · May 27th , 2014

i can if you want me to

my acitivty bar doesn't mean anything, i'm a gm i just post usefull things.

RESiSTANT · May 28th , 2014

When you say to HGM "Who are you to tell me?" while he is reminding you to be active you are supposed to be demoted. In this case I've decide it because you've done 1 event in 1 month and your Overall activity is less than 30% in the forums for month. You should have understood why you are demoted and don't open such threads. We don't need inactive people in the staff team. It's simple to understand.

Icebreaker · May 28th , 2014

RESiSTANT said:
When you say to HGM "Who are you to tell me?" while he is reminding you to be active you are supposed to be demoted. In this case I've decide it because you've done 1 event in 1 month.

but as you can read in my activity updates i said why and i wrote more things in there, i shouldn't be demoted in this way...

Tobλ · May 28th , 2014

Same thread as you made in the past when Asmos denied your GM application. You started to talk about him his activity, his attitude, his inactivity in events while it was only about you, which makes me believe that you don't suit for this position no more because you are still a kid in your mind.

That is my opinion.

Icebreaker · May 28th , 2014

Toby said:
Same thread as you made in the past when Asmos denied your GM application. You started to talk about him his activity, his attitude, his inactivity in events while it was only about you, which makes me believe that you don't suit for this position no more because you are still a kid in your mind.

That is my opinion.

let's respect a little bit LMOD, i have created this thread only because this isn't fair to me.. check everything and you will see, the activity bar doesn't means anything.

Tobλ · May 28th , 2014

I did not talk about your activity. I'm talking about your attitude as a GM and as a member of this community. My reply ain't disrespectful at all.

Icebreaker · May 28th , 2014

Toby said:
I did not talk about your activity. I'm talking about your attitude as a GM and as a member of this community. My reply ain't disrespectful at all.

ask to everyone who was my attitude as gm and now as a legend and you will be pwned

also, let's respect a lil bit, i'm not calling you a kid so please take your lmod tag in mind, respect to be respected.

SyosS · May 28th , 2014

You hosted an event at 22nd May, before you hosted an event at 4th May (18 days w/o a simple event), 30th April, 18th April (12 days w/o a simple event), 5th April (13 days w/o an event). It means that you were inactive. You cant say that you havent receive any warning from HARREN since he PMed you and you answered to him in a rude way. You were a Game Master and he was your leader and even if you dislike him you have to respect him and listen to him because he is the one who will help you out in the hard time, he is the one who is maintaining the GM team. You were supposed to answer in a nice way and follow his words because he was nice to you in this PM (as I can see). Actually for me he did it good that he demoted you. I hope that you wont start to hate me after my words. But you have to understand that you are and you were wrong in this case.

Thanks,
SyosS.

Icebreaker · May 28th , 2014

SyosS said:
You hosted an event at 22nd May, before you hosted an event at 4th May (18 days w/o a simple event), 30th April, 18th April (12 days w/o a simple event), 5th April (13 days w/o an event). It means that you were inactive. You cant say that you havent receive any warning from HARREN since he PMed you and you answered to him in a rude way. You were a Game Master and he was your leader and even if you dislike him you have to respect him and listen to him because he is the one who will help you out in the hard time, he is the one who is maintaining the GM team. You were supposed to answer in a nice way and follow his words because he was nice to you in this PM (as I can see). Actually for me he did it good that he demoted you. I hope that you wont start to hate me after my words. But you have to understand that you are and you were wrong in this case.

Thanks,
SyosS.

but the thing is that i made a post in my activity updates about why i didnt hosted any event these days and harren said that He understood, then i made an event couple of days after it...

SyosS · May 28th , 2014

Icebreaker said:
but the thing is that i made a post in my activity updates about why i didnt hosted any event these days and harren said that He understood, then i made an event couple of days after it...

From what I know you can be inactive 2 weeks, but almost 2 months? You should be thankful that you were a GM till now. Because you should be demoted a long time ago and then you would have a chance to come back after you will be active again. Dont you think that this thread should be closed and you should say sorry to HARREN for blaming him in the public?

--CaShew-- · May 28th , 2014

If someone asked Icebreaker what happen to him... Before he got demoted there would be not any problem or issues.

Icebreaker · May 28th , 2014

Enthusiasm said:
If someone asked Icebreaker what happen to him... Before he got demoted there would be not any problem or issues.

exactly, after a long time as gm and everyday online working in here this is how i get paid? demoted instantly only because someone thinks that im inactive (harren) and the rest (community) don't think the same..
1 thing is making posts and 1 thing is being online and helping people with usefull posts.

RESiSTANT · May 28th , 2014

Mission impossible understanding his own problem. Banned for unknown period of time. He is making fun of us, guys don't you get it? He holds an GM tag just to show off himself to the others and show how inactive Infinity staff members can be just to ruin our reputation build with the years. That's just pathetic actions now creating useless discussions "Why I am demoted without reason?" Everyone sees his Event Thread and latest posts and he still claims that he was active. While someone can't do his job he just signs off. How hard it can be to left this position open for someone else than holding it like an soldier trophy?

Discussion Demotion without reason

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