[Suggestion] About decreasing power of Buffs.

[Abesta]

Hello guys,

I did few tests in server 4 with new pot rate. My tests specially were about Full Buff (Critical + MS + DMG and Def buffs) and about semi full buff (Critical + DMG or critical +DMG and Def buffs) and results aren`t good enough. I am not even talking about + Gold Pet. Full Buff BK vs Full Buff BK they both dying faster. A guy with full buff killing BK or DL w/o any defense buffs in 2-3 hits.

I am here to ask is it possible to decrease effects/powers of elf Damage buff? Specially that makes Wars un-enjoyable. No more changes needed. Don`t decrease power of critical buff or don`t decrease/increase defense buffs, just damage buff. I would like to see everybody's opinion about this case.


P.S: Must add this too, even with Shield + 2 FO ring and with Full buff still same results. I tested it and my opponent just simply used G.PET and kicked my ass.

 

[Chouji]

Great idea, but for now on it will be hectic buff vs buff. Ahaha
If these does happened, there will be someone stronger than ever to always ruin other players gameplay. (wink)

And for this kind we need to change majority of the options on sets. Some ubers overpowered.


Good idea though, cheers

 

[RESiSTANT]

Yes, lets see opinions, but characters with buffs and ubers will be always better. It's like comparing Leather vs Brave set. What's the sense of Buffs and Uber then? I think it's inappropriate to complain when someone uses buffs against you. It's normal for you to die faster. You should get buffer too, of course if you want to have chances. In Sieges and Guild wars everyone is supposed to be buffed and so on. Just make a private challenge without buffs, make it with same set, wings, weapons and same potions /red or ag/. Can't just decrease this -> and that <- because you don't find it appropriate that someone play with buffs against you. It would just lead to infinite testing and headaches.

(We've tried increasing / decreasing significally all class formulas and it's impossible to find the perfect balance for example: DK VS SM, DK VS ELF, DK vs MG, DK vs DL. It's always different, and always and always. If increase the Elf then the other classes is just useless against the Elf which is increased in order to beat for example DK. The most balance you can find in our 100x Edition server. It's because the 65,230 stats you can separate on Strenth, Agility, Vitality. Energy and Command if it's DL. In 32k all stats it just doesn't happen the way we want it. So we already said balance in high exp server is impossible, even our unforgettable friend Newman said it clearly before, you can search his posts. R.I.P brother Nemet.)

Just sharing my opinion. Everyone can say better than me and we follow this idea till its end.

Thanks!

 

[Iceman]

With the new pot rate. Everything is fair. If your opponent is with buffs and you are not. You will be killed. But try to have an equal buffs to the opponent. Then you will have the same kill as him. I've tested it. Even though I have slow/low pot rate. We from the PH guys can challenge EU players. Ubers or non-ubers.

And also balancing PvP on Buffers. Makes difference. Since most of the complaints of non-donators were " I can't kill him coz he's uber " or " I won't challenge him coz he pot rate is fast ". You guys want to have fair fight. So with Venc's power, he is doing the best he can to balance the PvP's. But still accepting opinions, after all this is still a test. More updates will be coming soon. I think. :biggrin:

 

[Dimer]

There is no use making changes to the buffs,because then what do we need them for if they are weakened.It's just a part of the game Abesta as you know even better than us.The new composition Venci made is very good,because it gives a chance to normal players to play better.Every character has it's specifics to PVP and could be used the way you need.
Like Venci said,it's impossible to find balance,there always must be a bigger fish,either way the game won't be interesting.

 

[Luigir]

Well, i was around to sv4 for few mns i was pvpking with someone then i saw that my pott rate was so low and even so, i could beat him in few seconds. ofc that my opponent had FO set and i had uber set...
let's compare this situation in sv3 which it's totally different and normally the results will be against to uber users instead of FO sets, the dmg seems to be more strong for FO users.

and i'd like test the new pott Balance which is still on poll.

 

[Abesta]

Guys please get me 100% correct. I am not talking about Buff vs non buff, or even normal non buffed pvps. All are about Buff vs Buff. And it was Uber vs Uber. We are killing each other really fast. Non-Buff vs Non-Buff lasts enough long and it is enjoyable. But Full buff vs Full buff is different. Both killing eachother easier. But would like to have balance in it. For to have balance and for to have equality between Non-Buff normal Bk vs Bk fight and Full Buffed Bk vs Bk, damage must be decreased. For to decrease that Damage, it would be good if Venci decreases Elf's damage buffs power.

Normal Bk vs Bk - 1 minute for to kill (for example)
Full buffed Bk vs Full buffed Bk - 10 sec and even lesser to kill (for example). For to have this fight a bit longer, damage must be a bit lesser.

Again and again, it is not about BKs damage but for me elf's damage buff gives much damage. It was normal before but since we have 2-3 pots per sec, MS and Def buff doesn`t help if your opponent has critical and damage buff. MS must Block Critical's damage and def buff must block dmg buff's damage, so full buff vs full buff fight will not be different than normal fight.

 

[Abesta]

Bumpitoo

Guys opinions?

 

[Bear]

I LOVE RESiSTANT for doing this, he make's The PVP balance we PH guys has a poor Potting rate.. Like Iceman Said.. I am looking Forward to make some Update's on Server3 Long Live sir Venci Long Live INFINITYM.U Best Community Ever!!

 

[Titan]

as ive experienced, the Full buff fights were not made to take long fights. u mostly make urself full buff to kill fast, to clear the stage, etc. And coz u die fast and the other guy dies fast, makes it funnier, makes it equal chances in the fight.
At server 3 is still long fight in full buff duels. But i think it shouldnt touch the damage buffs, yesterday i fought the same with full buff 2 bk vs full buff 2 bk and once we won, once they so it was fun. But consider this post as my opinion

 

[Dimer]

as ive experienced, the Full buff fights were not made to take long fights. u mostly make urself full buff to kill fast, to clear the stage, etc. And coz u die fast and the other guy dies fast, makes it funnier, makes it equal chances in the fight.
At server 3 is still long fight in full buff duels. But i think it shouldnt touch the damage buffs, yesterday i fought the same with full buff 2 bk vs full buff 2 bk and once we won, once they so it was fun. But consider this post as my opinion

As explained in the past from RESiSTANT the damage increase will result in an inbalance,but I will leave it here for his opinion.

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