Discussion Unbalanced PVP

[SmiggleZ]

NOTE:
THIS IS NOT A SUGGESTION
THIS IS NOT A BLIND/SARCASTIC HIT
THIS IS NOT A FLAME THREAD
I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING IN THE SERVER CHANGED , THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHARACTER BALANCING OF OUR SERVER.

This has been bulged up in my chest for a long time... Time to spill it,,,
I am annoyed by the fact that Blade Masters Are "OVERPOWERED" . It's as if they are the only class that can kill (aside for DM in S4). Character PVP Balancing is one of the major things I do not like.

I just want to point out a few things.

1. Dark Wizards , and Elves are turned into nothing more than support characters that use buffs to be useful.

It's not that they are a useless, they are useful but only as support characters. Wizards are actually heavy hitters originally.

2. The DM's are basically useless on PVP (except on S4). DM's are hundred percent useless on CS.

I admit that I am an avid Duel Master User since the first time I played MU. It might be one of the reasons why I hate the fact that only BM's and LE's can actually PK in this server. I was forced to make a DL and a BM just to get actual kills on other server 3/CS but it was a fun experience trying to learn how to combo and stuff. In the end I still failed in gaining experience and skills upon playing BM's and DL's that is why I am stuck at Server 4 playing with my DM.

However I do understand,

I know it is impossible to do anything now because the population of this server is probably 90% Blade Masters. So it is evident that if ever character PVP balancing is changed to favor other classes many if not most of the population will complain. IF ever a BM with uber set gets killed by a SM, they will cry and cry and cry.
I also understand that this is a Fun-PVP server with max stats and F.O items so it is understandable that a hundred percent character balancing is impossible since The original game play has been altered.
I also understand that this post might have been too little too late.

I know that this will probably not even get heard to 30% of the population and read by 20% of the forum users.

I know this post is probably pointless since I have pointed out the flaws of my idea though.

All in all this is just a critique on what I have seen so far from my 2+ years of enjoying this entertaining community-based server.

 

[--CaShew--]

Yes your right, since were in season 3 why, elf and wizard , MG, is useles in pk? We need to balance all the character for pvp. So its more better and more intertaining .

 

[Draco™]

Wiz and Elf have their purpose, to assist and buff characters, and it gives a big edge to BKs and DLs. We dont always need to have a killer type of character, there should always be a support.

But for the MGs I think it's the one that needs to be balanced since it's really useless.

 

[--CaShew--]

But, still SM should be a pvp character too.

 

[BraveHeart]

But, still SM should be a pvp character too.

I'm not so sure, SM has a really nice defense, but its damage s.ucks has hell xd

 

[--CaShew--]

I'm not so sure, SM has a really nice defense, but its damage s.ucks has hell xd

thats true.

Elf should be a pk charcter and mg ^^

 

[Bernadeth]

I highly appreciate your thoughts since most of them coincide with the sentiments I have been enduring for a long time. I am a pure elf and you're right. I'm only useful in terms of buffing. My bows are useless and they seem to be created merely for fashion and design. Quite unfortunate as it may seem, but it's the reality and I understand that it has to be like that.

Aside from the literal meanings of your words, I feel that you actually want to complain yet there's nothing you can do but go with the flow.

In this case, the quotation "If you can't beat them, join them" is actually not applicable because at stake are your passion and personal preference.

You're not alone. I feel you.
I hope they do too.

:2:

 

[Sandza]

well in 9999x all chars are good in pvp. idk i can kill all classes with all classes chars no probs for me with that

 

[SmiggleZ]

well in 9999x all chars are good in pvp. idk i can kill all classes with all classes chars no probs for me with that

Troll Level 99999

I highly appreciate your thoughts since most of them coincide with the sentiments I have been enduring for a long time. I am a pure elf and you're right. I'm only useful in terms of buffing. My bows are useless and they seem to be created merely for fashion and design. Quite unfortunate as it may seem, but it's the reality and I understand that it has to be like that.

Aside from the literal meanings of your words, I feel that you actually want to complain yet there's nothing you can do but go with the flow.

In this case, the quotation "If you can't beat them, join them" is actually not applicable because at stake are your passion and personal preference.

You're not alone. I feel you.
I hope they do too.

:2:

I do know that a lot of people feel the same way however there is nothing really we can do but play along.

as you quoted...

"If you can't beat them, join them"

:smile:

Wiz and Elf have their purpose, to assist and buff characters, and it gives a big edge to BKs and DLs. We dont always need to have a killer type of character, there should always be a support.

But for the MGs I think it's the one that needs to be balanced since it's really useless.

I admit that there should be support classes. All Games have their own corresponding Support Classes/Pieces. Even chess ( a primitive game) has it's support classes/pieces. BUT, even as support classes, in the original game play they also have killer/PK builds. Elves can PK because they also have skills that do heavy damage in the original gameplay. I am also a hundred percent positive that Soul Masters are Heavy Hitters/Nukers in the original gameplay. Not just pointless characters with pointy hats that give defense buffs. NOVA-Teleport combo of wizards is a devistating Nuke Attack. Either which, I do like the fact that you agree with me regarding that DM's/MG's are basically useless.

:smile:

 

[BadKnight]

Yes, you are absolutely right about wizards and elf can pawn other characters like knight class in the old versions.

I liked the part where wizard class should be powered-up, honestly. However, if you power up wizards with hard damages, don't you think wizards will be a little bit overpowered by the knight class if you put them with hard damages like the BK has now? Hard damage + good defense + Mana Shield + item shield + teleport + poison and ice skills (naming decay and ice storm) + fast attack rate.

I would suggest that we amp the wizards and elf slightly not higher or nearer like the BK has now and lets if that will make a difference in the PVP scene of today. Rave if it rocks, rant if it su*ks. Just a thought tho

 

[Reefadawg]

Hello,


Seriously? Look, before you complain a lot that DM's are useless did you know that server 3 and server 4 is in USA and we got server 7 which in Europe, In server 4 there is balance PVP when it is in USA and DM's there are good, but a poll has been open in forum for Europe players to transfer server 4 to Europe as Server and the PVP balance in server 4 still the same but the server is moved to Europe, So the problem about imbalance PVP is fixed long time ago cause server 4 existed but the server moved to Europe, About CS, DM's are not useless tho no one use DM's in CS I don't know why? If you look, Elf's are like DM's low defence right? but with buff Elf's can go CS so I think same as DM's they can go CS with buffs but no one want's to do it cause CS here is like fighting for your pride.


Thanks !

 

[SmiggleZ]

Yes, you are absolutely right about wizards and elf can pawn other characters like knight class in the old versions.

I liked the part where wizard class should be powered-up, honestly. However, if you power up wizards with hard damages, don't you think wizards will be a little bit overpowered by the knight class if you put them with hard damages like the BK has now? Hard damage + good defense + Mana Shield + item shield + teleport + poison and ice skills (naming decay and ice storm) + fast attack rate.

I would suggest that we amp the wizards and elf slightly not higher or nearer like the BK has now and lets if that will make a difference in the PVP scene of today. Rave if it rocks, rant if it su*ks. Just a thought tho

That is a very well thought out point. I admit that I never really thought about wizards overpowering BM's if we made them equal. Thanks for that, now I have added insights and knowledge.

Hello,


Seriously? Look, before you complain a lot that DM's are useless did you know that server 3 and server 4 is in USA and we got server 7 which in Europe, In server 4 there is balance PVP when it is in USA and DM's there are good, but a poll has been open in forum for Europe players to transfer server 4 to Europe as Server and the PVP balance in server 4 still the same but the server is moved to Europe, So the problem about imbalance PVP is fixed long time ago cause server 4 existed but the server moved to Europe, About CS, DM's are not useless tho no one use DM's in CS I don't know why? If you look, Elf's are like DM's low defence right? but with buff Elf's can go CS so I think same as DM's they can go CS with buffs but no one want's to do it cause CS here is like fighting for your pride.


Thanks !

Omg,,,, this guy is clearly clueless...
did you even read my whole post??? Do you even know what PVP balancing is?? Where is your Logic??? ROFL... this post made my day :biglaugh:

:biglaugh:

IF you are gonna try to show-off at least write with correct grammar and add a main idea to your composition, not just random words mixed together..
No offense but your post is way off the original post's topic plus it is full of Fallacies....

Let me go enumerate some of them...


1st point, you stated

Seriously? Look, before you complain a lot that DM's are useless did you know that server 3 and server 4 is in USA and we got server 7 which in Europe, In server 4 there is balance PVP when it is in USA and DM's there are good, but a poll has been open in forum for Europe players to transfer server 4 to Europe as Server and the PVP balance in server 4 still the same but the server is moved to Europe, So the problem about imbalance PVP is fixed long time ago cause server 4 existed but the server moved to Europe

Huh???? The problem of imbalance PVP is fixed long time ago??

First fallacy of the statement,
I was not inactive for so long, I still remember that time... IT was still in 2013... a year/ months ago is not "LONG TIME AGO"

Second, fallacy of the statement,
"imbalance PVP is fixed" ,,,, ROFL... ?????
really?? Do you even know what the word imbalance actually means??
According to websters dictionary;

im·bal·ance noun \(ˌ)im-ˈba-lən(t)s\
: a state or condition in which different things do not occur in equal or proper amounts

Since when did elves and wizards did Severe Dps in any server?? Have you ever seen a Wizard pawn a BM ?? (both with uber sets in this scenario).
Have you ever seen an Elf pawn a DL?? (both with uber sets in this scenario)
Never in your lifetime can you see elves and wizards kill DL/BM in a duel/battle in the 9999999x version of infinity. (both with uber sets in this scenario)
Technically speaking with all statistics in motion,,, the only way an ELF/WIZARD kill a DL/BM is on these following scenarions:

1. The BM/DL is not wearing F.O gear while the elf/wizard is
2. The BM/DL is not max stats while the elf/wizard is
3. The BM/DL is not using potions while the elf/wizard is
4. The BM/DL is AFK and not even trying to fight

DO you call that BALANCE???
IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL "Imbalance PVP fixed" ???
if yes, then you have serious Logic deficiency issues.



2nd point,,,, you stated,

About CS, DM's are not useless tho no one use DM's in CS I don't know why? If you look, Elf's are like DM's low defence right? but with buff Elf's can go CS so I think same as DM's they can go CS with buffs but no one want's to do it cause CS here is like fighting for your pride.

First statement:

"DM's are not useless tho no one use DM's in CS I don't know why"

HUH?????
I have tried using DM's in CS.... It barely does any damage.... This is because the character balancing of Server 5 is the same of that to server 3. Even with full buffs DM's cannot kill a BM in CS. THat is the reason why DM's aren't being used in CS.

Second statement:

" If you look, Elf's are like DM's low defence right?"

NO!!! DUH!!! Do you even know the basic character descriptions of the game?? Elves have high deff due to their buffs and heals. Elves are not low def characters.

Third statement:
"but with buff Elf's can go CS so I think same as DM's they can go CS with buffs but no one want's to do it cause CS here is like fighting for your pride"

Say what??? When you say that CS is like fighting for your pride ,That is just your PERSONAL OPINION!! that is not a fact!!

and by the way,, you said , "with buff Elf's can go CS" well of course they can obviously... even without buffs elves go to CS...there are plenty of elves that go CS because that is what their purpose has become,,, and that is to buff other characters to gain a minor advantage over unbuffed ones...

I can even break down the mistakes and fallacies of your reply however to show a little respect to you, I decided to keep my reply short.

Judging from this little reply I made,,, it shows to fact that
YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

Please do not post replies next time if you have no proper knowledge about what you are talking about.

 

[Reefadawg]

Since when did elves and wizards did Severe Dps in any server?? Have you ever seen a Wizard pawn a BM ?? (both with uber sets in this scenario).
Have you ever seen an Elf pawn a DL?? (both with uber sets in this scenario)
Never in your lifetime can you see elves and wizards kill DL/BM in a duel/battle in the 9999999x version of infinity. (both with uber sets in this scenario)
Technically speaking with all statistics in motion,,, the only way an ELF/WIZARD kill a DL/BM is on these following scenarions:

1. The BM/DL is not wearing F.O gear while the elf/wizard is
2. The BM/DL is not max stats while the elf/wizard is
3. The BM/DL is not using potions while the elf/wizard is
4. The BM/DL is AFK and not even trying to fight

DO you call that BALANCE???
IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL "Imbalance PVP fixed" ???
if yes, then you have serious Logic deficiency issues.

So you want Wizards/Elf can kill BK's and DL's hmmm let's see, If Elf can use Ice Arrow which allows the target to get frost in his spot and Elf actually can kill BK's/DL's that is balance?

In Wizard, Can use tele,mana shield,Ice Storm,Poison(decay), and Wizards can kill BK's/DL's It's overpowered on wizzards :rofl: Is that balance for you ?? :rofl:

First statement:

"DM's are not useless tho no one use DM's in CS I don't know why"

HUH?????
I have tried using DM's in CS.... It barely does any damage.... This is because the character balancing of Server 5 is the same of that to server 3. Even with full buffs DM's cannot kill a BM in CS. THat is the reason why DM's aren't being used in CS.

Orly, So same as elf and wiz they can't kill in CS but they got their purpose on CS, Elf for giving buff and wizzard is using for switch, elf can hold switch too don't tell me that DM's can't hold switch :rofl:

Second statement:

" If you look, Elf's are like DM's low defence right?"

NO!!! DUH!!! Do you even know the basic character descriptions of the game?? Elves have high deff due to their buffs and heals. Elves are not low def characters.

Do you even know?? Hmmm, Elf has high deff due to their buffs, (with buffs) let's try that no buffs same as DM's and let's see I think I stated clear this word "but with buff Elf's can go CS so I think same as DM's they can go CS with buffs"


Hmm, Let's see your first post in this thread

1. Dark Wizards , and Elves are turned into nothing more than support characters that use buffs to be useful.

It's not that they are a useless, they are useful but only as support characters. Wizards are actually heavy hitters originally.

If wizzards can kill BK's let's see if it's balance then TELE + ICE STORM + they can kill BK's that is balance for you? :rofl:

2. The DM's are basically useless on PVP (except on S4). DM's are hundred percent useless on CS.

100% useless in CS? If elf can hold switch with MS + Swell same as DM's MS + Swell DM's can hold switch don't tell that they can't :rofl:

I admit that I am an avid Duel Master User since the first time I played MU. It might be one of the reasons why I hate the fact that only BM's and LE's can actually PK in this server. I was forced to make a DL and a BM just to get actual kills on other server 3/CS but it was a fun experience trying to learn how to combo and stuff. In the end I still failed in gaining experience and skills upon playing BM's and DL's that is why I am stuck at Server 4 playing with my DM.

So you want DM's can kill any type of characters in Server 3/5 cause you are DM user since you played MU (selfishness)

Let's say that WIZ/ELF/DM can kill all type of character like BK is that balance? Do you think? They will be overpowered and BK will be useless think about it. Why? BK is a melee,and they need to get near to thier target to do combo, the rest are long range and they can kill all the type of Characters, now BK's are useless, Both of us got point that wanted to pointed out but we end up in Arguments, I respect your opinions, so respect mine too, watch your words too.

 

[Bernadeth]

I have no intention to ruin the momentum but guys, you can share and exchange ideas in a polite and healthy manner. As we know, intelligent debate is always far better than an unethical argument.

 

[Abesta]

First of all, I want to insult DM and the one who created this character Don`t make me lose my control boyz

Well, I like the idea. I want to see some balances. I am bored of using BKs. LoL, not only using this char, but also seeing this char BK and DL are strong in this server? Wrong! DL? What da hell is that ? He is da peace of nab only. A DL cant kill me even when I ware of my SET? So DL is strong here? Even with ma 2 pot/sec in server 3 an UBER user DL can`t even lower my HP bar lol Even DL's need some balances.

About SM, Hmm great Class and needs talented controller Increasing Damage of SM to even 35-50 k Damage will not make him strong. He cant kill a BK that fast and even he will die himself. How? By, BK's great super buper reflect. This nab will receive 35% reflect of his own damage. And of course this reflect will be enough to kill his 80-90k HP. He has great Speed, so He will receive at least 10k damage reflect from his own damages. Oh, if this nab will use Swell, yeah then you have to use some other buffs to make him down.

About Elf, she will be just a nab. Let's say hers damage balanced like current DL's damage. The speed of his Damage will be like our current DL's damage. So if DL cant kill BK nor other chars, Elf will not too. But there's a thing, she can use SKILL damage of Bow, then it will be some different feeling.

About DM, man I will insult this nab right now OK, let's keep this nabs balance like he has in server 4.

BK, yoou my nigga, you are immortal Even these nabs with full balance can`t kick you ass easily


I like to see this kind of balanced server. So everyone will play. Of course, it is hard to make them balanced. Sometimes you have to increase damage and you have to decrease defense or so. In my opinion MS's defense have to be decreased.


P.S: If this happens, then pets which block reflects must be aways from the server (I lost name of that pet lol )

 

[--CaShew--]

First of all, I want to insult DM and the one who created this character Don`t make me lose my control boyz

Well, I like the idea. I want to see some balances. I am bored of using BKs. LoL, not only using this char, but also seeing this char BK and DL are strong in this server? Wrong! DL? What da hell is that ? He is da peace of nab only. A DL cant kill me even when I ware of my SET? So DL is strong here? Even with ma 2 pot/sec in server 3 an UBER user DL can`t even lower my HP bar lol Even DL's need some balances.

About SM, Hmm great Class and needs talented controller Increasing Damage of SM to even 35-50 k Damage will not make him strong. He cant kill a BK that fast and even he will die himself. How? By, BK's great super buper reflect. This nab will receive 35% reflect of his own damage. And of course this reflect will be enough to kill his 80-90k HP. He has great Speed, so He will receive at least 10k damage reflect from his own damages. Oh, if this nab will use Swell, yeah then you have to use some other buffs to make him down.

About Elf, she will be just a nab. Let's say hers damage balanced like current DL's damage. The speed of his Damage will be like our current DL's damage. So if DL cant kill BK nor other chars, Elf will not too. But there's a thing, she can use SKILL damage of Bow, then it will be some different feeling.

About DM, man I will insult this nab right now OK, let's keep this nabs balance like he has in server 4.

BK, yoou my nigga, you are immortal Even these nabs with full balance can`t kick you ass easily


I like to see this kind of balanced server. So everyone will play. Of course, it is hard to make them balanced. Sometimes you have to increase damage and you have to decrease defense or so. In my opinion MS's defense have to be decreased.


P.S: If this happens, then pets which block reflects must be aways from the server (I lost name of that pet lol )

Your right DL cant kill a bk's i tried it before even 3 dl full gear cant kill me..

 

[RESiSTANT]

Read previous discussions about this and please don't open new ones. We have already been trying to do the same things that new comers come and suggest before checking with search function about like it's supposed to be. It's no sense to discuss it since all classes are from different kinds. There's no way to make all classes balanced because every class have different skills and it's own gameplay. Not all have Twising Slash and nearby attack skills like BK. The game is not made 1vs1 PVP, but guild wars and castle siege. Increase SM skill will lead to unbalancing the whole gameplay to a brand new level. All classes will die by 1 hit and BK will only remain alive around. It's like touching one class and ruining the next one. If you increase defense of MG because he dies too fast by SM (because lets assume we increase his def or DMG) then MG will not be able to be killed at all from BK. Like it's now in server-4 some BKs have difficulties killing MGs.

But still with Elves can be tried something but if I remember well the last time when we tried MG got killed by 1 hit against Elf and to all other classes all was good. Like I said there's no perfect formula. The perfect formula is at our 100x Edition server. There's configurations made several options including to 3 exc options max and limitations for stats.

 

[SmiggleZ]

I have no intention to ruin the momentum but guys, you can share and exchange ideas in a polite and healthy manner. As we know, intelligent debate is always far better than an unethical argument.

My fault for going past the bars. I admit that what I wrote could start spark a flame but what I post is never for the intention of such. All I want is a fun discussion for this thread. It has been a long time since I have met people who reply to a broad topic.
you can jump in the fun as well though. It's all just for fun in the end. :smile:

So you want Wizards/Elf can kill BK's and DL's hmmm let's see, If Elf can use Ice Arrow which allows the target to get frost in his spot and Elf actually can kill BK's/DL's that is balance?

In Wizard, Can use tele,mana shield,Ice Storm,Poison(decay), and Wizards can kill BK's/DL's It's overpowered on wizzards :rofl: Is that balance for you ?? :rofl:






Orly, So same as elf and wiz they can't kill in CS but they got their purpose on CS, Elf for giving buff and wizzard is using for switch, elf can hold switch too don't tell me that DM's can't hold switch :rofl:




Do you even know?? Hmmm, Elf has high deff due to their buffs, (with buffs) let's try that no buffs same as DM's and let's see I think I stated clear this word "but with buff Elf's can go CS so I think same as DM's they can go CS with buffs"


Hmm, Let's see your first post in this thread





If wizzards can kill BK's let's see if it's balance then TELE + ICE STORM + they can kill BK's that is balance for you? :rofl:



100% useless in CS? If elf can hold switch with MS + Swell same as DM's MS + Swell DM's can hold switch don't tell that they can't :rofl:



So you want DM's can kill any type of characters in Server 3/5 cause you are DM user since you played MU (selfishness)

Let's say that WIZ/ELF/DM can kill all type of character like BK is that balance? Do you think? They will be overpowered and BK will be useless think about it. Why? BK is a melee,and they need to get near to thier target to do combo, the rest are long range and they can kill all the type of Characters, now BK's are useless, Both of us got point that wanted to pointed out but we end up in Arguments, I respect your opinions, so respect mine too, watch your words too.

hahahahah... I seem to have underestimated you.. Great counter , claps for you... anyways, Our exchange of words are not personal. They are just clashing ideologies. NO offense was meant however I do apologies for my rude use of words. But don't think of them as rude words. Think of them as friendly puns. Anyway back to the topic [this time I will not use harsh words to be more formal ]

okay first of all,

"So you want Wizards/Elf can kill BK's and DL's hmmm let's see, If Elf can use Ice Arrow which allows the target to get frost in his spot and Elf actually can kill BK's/DL's that is balance?"


you got one point correct,because it is true that "ice" attack of evles is a bish move witch freezes the target on place but it's effect can be altered to something less drastic by mimicking the effect of the crystal sword (slow opponent with a little percent chance) aside from the hundred percent full freeze; and, as far as everyone knows DL's use ranged attacks such as fireblast. SO even if the they stand in place they can still counter effectively making things more entertaining and evening up the match-up.

"If wizzards can kill BK's let's see if it's balance then TELE + ICE STORM + they can kill BK's that is balance for you? "

Well yes that is balance... That is the purpose of balance, the equality of classes where-in a each class can kill each class.


"100% useless in CS? If elf can hold switch with MS + Swell same as DM's MS + Swell DM's can hold switch don't tell that they can't "

You are correct with one portion BUT,,, technically speaking any class can hold the switch and any class can join CS if they want to however the contributions would be minimal and kind of pointless since there are only a few switches but many players .


"So you want DM's can kill any type of characters in Server 3/5 cause you are DM user since you played MU (selfishness)"
Nope, that is not selfishness. That is Chivalry. why? Because I admitted my own downs and intentions as well as my failures and at the same time I admitted that I had been entertained by the learning process. Besides, to start of this is not a suggestion. This is just a "Critique". In other words, this thread is for entertaining discussions and sharing/clashes of opinions and thoughts. :smile:

Read previous discussions about this and please don't open new ones. We have already been trying to do the same things that new comers come and suggest before checking with search function about like it's supposed to be. It's no sense to discuss it since all classes are from different kinds. There's no way to make all classes balanced because every class have different skills and it's own gameplay. Not all have Twising Slash and nearby attack skills like BK. The game is not made 1vs1 PVP, but guild wars and castle siege. Increase SM skill will lead to unbalancing the whole gameplay to a brand new level. All classes will die by 1 hit and BK will only remain alive around. It's like touching one class and ruining the next one. If you increase defense of MG because he dies too fast by SM (because lets assume we increase his def or DMG) then MG will not be able to be killed at all from BK. Like it's now in server-4 some BKs have difficulties killing MGs.

But still with Elves can be tried something but if I remember well the last time when we tried MG got killed by 1 hit against Elf and to all other classes all was good. Like I said there's no perfect formula. The perfect formula is at our 100x Edition server. There's configurations made several options including to 3 exc options max and limitations for stats.

Well this post summed up everything. I guess I need to move to 100x. Thanks for this,

 

[Wayne]

Too much to read in this whole thread, since I don't have much time i'll just reply to the first post in summary,

First, MU was never supposed to have 32k stats, this was done by individual servers and thus they had to make changes in the settings of the server to make it possible to play with as mentioned 32k stats. That being said you can consider InfinityMU completely unqiue, the balancing, editing of stats was all done in-house meaning it's like "custom gameplay". I've played a lot of servers in the past, even when there was no season 4 5 6 etc. and never ever did we have SM/DM/ELF balance in season 3. It's just not possible for so many reasons, and reefa has a few good points about the Elf and SM classes for example elves can just ice you a mile away and you would never be able to get closer, SM's can teleport rapidly and attack you (even at the same time as is the case with lightning and a few other skills). If you increase the DM's damage it becomes a competition of "who has the higher pot rate" because it's just rapid damage being shot, that would not be very fair would it? At least with BM's there are combo's, ts techniques, and so many other ways to get the upper hand in PVP other then something that's uncontrollable (pot rate / ping). Sorry I know my thoughts are jumbled don't know why though =P.

I thought about this balancing many times to, theoretically it sounds great, "oh make the SM a bit stronger", "increase the damage of elves"

I don't mean to be so negative, I noticed your first post mentioned some of the flaws and you yourself know some of the reasons why its not possible. If it were possible i'd support it 100%.

 

[marynina]

smigg has a point... hopping that they will changed it..
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.coz only BK and DL who rules in arena..