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Hello dear, infinitains.

Haven't you got tired of dying to fast in sever three?? With this three pots per second? Why wont make pot rate atless max to pot five or six? Three is good enough for a slug fiest, but atless with alittle bit fast pots anyone can handle a little bit of buffers. People with buff are so fast to kill with three pot rate, lets not talk about being greedy, I'm just seeing useless one hit kills with crit. Its pointless and annoying, I'm not aganist this pot rate, I think its cool. But why can't it be more equal if pot rate so low? Hope you understand my suggestions.


Plus, we all know that people with 15-25 pots per second are unequal pot rate to many, three is to little and a good amount will be five or six to make it equal enough vs buffers.






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I've to agree with you in this curriculum vitae written as suggestion. The only thing i noticed , it's hard to make a difference between [Hacker/Cheater or whatever] and other players who has got ,,Critical Damage,, or any kind of buffs , due they both can handle any player in just some simple hits. It makes doubts about that. Anyway it's just my little opinion about the current PVP System, however as i mentioned , i agree with this suggestion.
Increasing potting rates at less to 5-6 , or taking off pot delay :)
 

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But why can't it be more equal if pot rate so low?
Because if you have bad ping to server (150~200ms) you would still have 2-3 pots per second in the best case. Also if you have good ping like lets say 60ms to server then the server cooldown makes it fair to your opponent because if you will have 3 more potions that would make it 6 potions total per sec like you said and your opponent barely can pot 2-3 pots per second with his ping. The balanced value is 3 pots / sec. (0.3 ms / pot = 0.9 ms = 3 pots. in total 1.0s = 3 pots) If you don't want to die fast then just use your SD set in Siege and your DRI set in Server-3. Or just play in Server-4 if you want to use SD only.
 

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Because if you have bad ping to server (150~200ms) you would still have 2-3 pots per second in the best case. Also if you have good ping like lets say 60ms to server then the server cooldown makes it fair to your opponent because you will have 3 more potions and that makes is 6 total like you said. The balanced value is 3 pots / sec. If you don't want to die fast then just use your SD set in Siege and your DRI set in Server3. Or just play in Server 4 to use SD too.
It's impossible to pot 6 right now in the server , whereas , maximum is 3 and it's even with delays
I've got 36 Ping to the server ,,host,, at France now :) *I can show any SS of Wtfast or whatever you gonna ask*
36 ping - the lowest ping in the server i guess , and what ? 3 Pot sec with great delays :) No any living player could get 6 right now . About CS and Ser4 , it's okay and thanks for the sutff , you left us to enjoy sometimes
 
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Because if you have bad ping to server (150~200ms) you would still have 2-3 pots per second in the best case. Also if you have good ping like lets say 60ms to server then the server cooldown makes it fair to your opponent because if you will have 3 more potions that would make it 6 potions total per sec like you said and your opponent barely can pot 2-3 pots per second with his ping. The balanced value is 3 pots / sec. (0.3 ms / pot = 0.9 ms = 3 pots. in total 1.0s = 3 pots) If you don't want to die fast then just use your SD set in Siege and your DRI set in Server-3. Or just play in Server-4 if you want to use SD only.
Thats what yellow options we are using damage rate increase, but we still end up dying with crit in one hit, we all do know that. I have 250-300 ping but my pots can ping up to five. But its just a suggestion, many people end up dying fast in arena with few combos. These word of mine are coming from experience ingame, everday playing and I see many maddness. Not to be rude, but lets talk about it, you venci are busy with coding, donates, help, tech support. Basically your all around player here. But you hardy play ingame and see what maddness happens in it. What is fair and what isn't truly fair.
 
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It's impossible to pot 6 right now the server , whereas , maximum is 3 and it's even with delays
I've got 36 Ping to the server ,,host,, at France now :) *I can show any SS of Wtfast or whatever you gonna ask*
36 ping - the lowest ping in the server i guess , and what ? 3 Pot sec with great delays :) No any living player could get 6 right now . About CS and Ser4 , it's okay and thanks for the sutff , you left us to enjoy sometimes
I just made a simple compare if we allow up to 5-6 potions like in the suggestion (first post) is said. Potions are limited to 3. Everyone knows that. If we allow up to 6 potions you will be able to execute 6 potions per second but some wouldn't and that's why we set it to 3 per second because all players to have chance in pvp. I believe that case is already clear long, long ago and no idea why it's opened again for discussions. But no problem, lets discuss to clear it again.


Thats what yellow options we are using damage rate increase, but we still end up dying with crit in one hit, we all do know that. I have 250-300 ping but my pots can ping up to five. But its just a suggestion, many people end up dying fast in arena with few combos.
Okay. If you create a guide for those who have same ping like yours (250-300ms) then we might do some tests but I doubt that someone with this ping would be able to use 5 potions per second.
 

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Okay. If ping like yours (250-300ms) I doubt that someone with this ping would be able to use 5 potions per second.

Yes I've did not say its a stable pot rate, I have said that it pings up to it. Means from time to time, it goes to 5.
 

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Okay. If you create a guide for those who have same ping like yours (250-300ms) then we might do some tests but I doubt that someone with this ping would be able to use 5 potions per second.
Indeed not all of em will be able to reach that goal but i am sure mostly will , so it costs to test i think
 
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PVP in server 3 is good and pot rate 3 per secs. is good also .

You only need a good ping and players have buff can't kill you easily.

so for me Not to change
 
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well right now as it stands buff is everything making the difference on sets useless...gotta agree you can never outpot a buffed BK or DL right now you cant defeat them without having a buff yourself...well increasing the pot rate wont change that much but at least you can fight a little bit...
 

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Nah. 5-6 will take so much time to kill each other 1v1. 3/Sec is cool.
 

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With 3 p/sec you can't withstand buffs, or X v 1, which I call BS tbh, you should have a pot rate allowed at maximum, that could allow you to fight someone with buffs , or even if you are outnumbered like 2v1 3v1 etc, right now, when someone is buffed or you're outnumbered, either you have to get buffs, or just leave the server, because there is no point of fighting and flying like a butterfly all around arena.
 

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you should have a pot rate allowed at maximum, that could allow you to fight someone with buffs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You know what u said is UTTERLY CRAP.
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You know what u said is UTTERLY CRAP.
You know what you said, doesn't even relate to the topic.
Bye now, don't flame the thread.

You talk **** in forum, but when it comes in game, and you get raped by buffs, you cry there.
 
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Oh i haven't seen for a while people crying about pot rate, but here you are again:kiddingme:

5-6 Pots are too much, the way it is now is perfect, i dont understand people that like long boring fights, does it make feel you stronger or something? because you're just smashing the qwe like a dummie.

@Mefi, you're the one that is complaining(crying) about getting roflstomped by buffers ingame, so hell knows why are you telling to vandal that he is crying about buffs when he disagrees with this whole suggestion.

The potting rate is fine as it is right now
So...
 

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Oh i haven't seen for a while people crying about pot rate, but here you are again:kiddingme:

5-6 Pots are too much, the way it is now is perfect, i dont understand people that like long boring fights, does it make feel you stronger or something? because you're just smashing the qwe like a dummie.

@Mefi, you're the one that is complaining(crying) about getting roflstomped by buffers ingame, so hell knows why are you telling to vandal that he is crying about buffs when he disagrees with this whole suggestion.

The potting rate is fine as it is right now
So...
I'm not complaining, bcoz I can stand by myself, and I don't care who he is hitting me, or how many of you are going to hit me, I'll have a good laugh.

I can have long boring fights even now with 3pot rate, bcoz the opponent won't kill me.
And I don't know why are you getting involved in none of your business that I have with Vandal, are you babysitting him?
 

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Oh i haven't seen for a while people crying about pot rate, but here you are again:kiddingme:

5-6 Pots are too much, the way it is now is perfect, i dont understand people that like long boring fights, does it make feel you stronger or something? because you're just smashing the qwe like a dummie.

@Mefi, you're the one that is complaining(crying) about getting roflstomped by buffers ingame, so hell knows why are you telling to vandal that he is crying about buffs when he disagrees with this whole suggestion.

The potting rate is fine as it is right now
So...

5 or 6 Pot sec won't make the fight boring. Good figthers will kill the opponent as easy as they doing now , but once , it's impossible to fight against a player who even has got just critical.:)
You know what it looks like ? If a person "who has no even uber' , with Elf dmg or whatever , kills you in one hit and you don't mind to report him due to you guessing that there will be 0 result because any kind of hack and this system acts similiarly. But it's not only reason , plenty of reasons there , if you would visit game any time , you would know.
Anyway as far as i get Resi wants to test this suggestion and make it happen so let it be just test and people could make such threads and make their negative thoughts visible :).
 

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6pot/sec its like a Mini-Fast Potter.
So if they are just yapping about "a dude with crit and other buff beat the crap out of me and im wearing uber and i pot 3pot/sec".
Why not just reduce the dmg given on buffs in Server 3 if it can be done
but for me increasing the pot rate just a No.
with 3pot/sec you cannot easily just go ingame beat the crap out of others
but as what Rupert said 250-300ms lets see my ingame EXPERIENCE you will have a pot speed of 1crappy pot/sec if with wtfast 2-3 but what happens if you dont have wtfast go to LORENCIA and just enjoy vending or you can go to the DARKSIDE.

If 6pot/sec will be implemented MINI-RAMBO(they cant go FULL RAMBO cuz you need 12pot/sec since potion cap is on 6pot/sec ) will apear.
 
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Oh i haven't seen for a while people crying about pot rate, but here you are again

I myself are not crying about this current pot rate, I'm tired of seeing people keep flying from nonsense one combo, one ts. What if we have something recommended for SD User's in sever 3? Not only sever four and five. Lets not say to everyone that makes post like these are a joke? What if the other party is trying to fulfill something that can change something for the game? Not a lot but something. I just wanna get back the SD Sets, Rather than just wait every pk event that happens in sever 4 or 5? Lets make SD Rate Usable in sever 3? Maybe so 5 or 6 or maybe 4 or 5 will make SD rate alive again in sever 3. Thanks hope you understand. At the same time with this pot rate will help people in Damage rate sets will be able to fight back with some buffs. not just one combo one ts. How can people end up staying in sever? When buffers are killing whole arena cannot move.
 
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