Official POLL Add Penalties for Players Who Supports Banned Cheaters

Do you agree with adding penalties?


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In connection with this ban:

Let’s hear from the community regarding players who supports and share their accounts with banned or blacklisted players to help them play SECRETLY. These players are ignoring the unbanning procedures and allowing their friends to bypass restrictions despite existing cheat cases and knowing that person is blacklisted.

What’s your stance on this? Should we add penalties for players who support banned and blacklisted players? drop you stance below after voting.

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Herren

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I agree with this. Helping those cheaters won't even help the server grow. Worse, it will be more of a disaster. “Your account is your responsibility.“ Allowing cheaters to hold your account is way too lame. Punishments should be applied as well or doubled, especially since they are risking not to get caught under someone's account. They know the drill and what is coming.
 

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yes, i agree, for the better community lets ban player who support cheaters. (y):beercheers:
 

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The question is, are they just playing on the account as a pilot, or did they already own it because they bought it?

I agree, the golden rule states "your account is your responsibility". They support the banned players = they should face penalties for ignoring the rules.
 

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Obviously my answer is a "YES" to minimize player who's not playing fair.
 

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I agree with this survey, you should not support anyone who uses cheats in the game
 

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I agree! We should add penalties for players who support blacklisted players. Sharing accounts to help them play secretly goes against the rules and is like helping them to cheat again, which isn't fair to others. They know the user is banned for using cheat but still ignore the rules, so they should be punished too. This behavior ruins the game. Players should play fairly and enjoy it.
 

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must be really dumb too give youre account too a convict , its ban on the account on one way or another , the cheater doesnt give a Efff about it what happends with youre account , since he/she knows it allready its going too happen sooner or later , if the cheater is true friend of urs , than he/she wont put youre account in any harmsway.
 

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Agree, winning or losing in game with normal play is still the best rather than having connection with those players being banned for using cheats. This is not only to those players who shared their account mentioned above but also to those other players too who still have connection to other cheaters in game who are being blacklisted and cannot go back to the game already. Add more penalties please.
 
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Neutral, coz you have to consider how will you evaluate this circumstance, what will be the grounds of the investigation? Does hearsay are considered as proof, does other platforms conversation screenshots considered as proof, and in what way can you say that blacklisted players are being helped knowing that they are banned, there is nothing normal players like us can do to remove their ban controlled it's all yours. The only solution is to buy or use a different unit which is not our problem anymore, it's the blacklisted player's choice if they use a different spare unit, for sure they won't gonna buy a new unit over and over again just to play. In my opinion, let them play if there is anyone who gets through, once caught hwid ban again. I’am sure no one will help them or donate money for them just to buy a new one to use.
Who ever proposes these new rules I think he/she has deeper anger or resentment. Cheers! 💩
 
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Neutral, coz you have to consider how will you evaluate this circumstance, what will be the grounds of the investigation? Does hearsay are considered as proof, does other platforms conversation screenshots considered as proof, and in what way can you say that blacklisted players are being helped knowing that they are banned, there is nothing normal players like us can do to remove their ban controlled it's all yours. The only solution is to buy or use a different unit which is not our problem anymore, it's the blacklisted player's choice if they use a different spare unit, for sure they won't gonna buy a new unit over and over again just to play. In my opinion, let them play if there is anyone who gets through, once caught hwid ban again. I’am sure no one will help them or donate money for them just to buy a new one to use.
Who ever proposes these new rules I think he/she has deeper anger or resentment. Cheers! 💩
Of course, our standard is not based on hearsay, who would rely on hearsay when it’s not reliable evidence for a ban?

We always rely on logs.In the case of Havost, the account listed was previously used by active players that susprisingly you dont expect they have connections to Havost, but recent login attempts were traced back to Havost. This suggests the account may have been shared or worst.....potentially sold on the black market. Over recent days, we observed that this account was accessed from multiple HWIDs, mixing including Havost’s HWID, indicating it was shared by the original owners.

We have records of IP addresses and HWIDs from the blacklisted player, allowing us to trace any HWID that accessed the account through login attempts and logs. Relying on random hearsay or reports as evidence is ineffective. We always depend on logs, which is why @RESiSTANT initiated the ban.

The GM team is actually innovating. We now have tools to determine if a blacklisted player has bought an entirely new PC, though some still manage to slip through. However, this is under development. With forensic tools and advanced technology, we can address these issues much more effectively than we could a year ago.

This would'nt be proposed by someone like you said, if the information is inaccurate.
 
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Of course, our standard is not based on hearsay, who would rely on hearsay when it’s not reliable evidence for a ban?

We always rely on logs.In the case of Havost, the account listed was previously used by active players that susprisingly you dont expect they have connections to Havost, but recent login attempts were traced back to Havost. This suggests the account may have been shared or worst.....potentially sold on the black market. Over recent days, we observed that this account was accessed from multiple HWIDs, mixing including Havost’s HWID, indicating it was shared by the original owners.

We have records of IP addresses and HWIDs from the blacklisted player, allowing us to trace any HWID that accessed the account through login attempts and logs. Relying on random hearsay or reports as evidence is ineffective. We always depend on logs, which is why @RESiSTANT initiated the ban.

The GM team is actually innovating. We now have tools to determine if a blacklisted player has bought an entirely new PC, though some still manage to slip through. However, this is under development. With forensic tools and advanced technology, we can address these issues much more effectively than we could a year ago.

This would'nt be proposed by someone like you said, if the information is inaccurate.

Just to let you know, there is no hate in my question. I just really wanted to know what the grounds of the investigation will be. If your procedure is based on the logs for me everything will be fair, but how will other players be involved here who claim that they are supporting these blacklisted players what will be the basis?
 
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Just to let you know, there is no hate in my question. I just really wanted to know what the grounds of the investigation will be. If your procedure is based on the logs for me everything will be fair, but how will other players be involved here who claim that they are supporting these blacklisted players what will be the basis?
The number of login attempts, along with the first HWID that logged into the account, is key. Think about it...the HWID initially registered on the account should belong to the account owner. While we didn’t have these logs like years or a decade ago, we now have statistical tools that make it possible.

For example, if I’m actively playing the account as a pilot, and then it’s suddenly accessed by a blacklisted player, it raises questions. Why would that pilot share the account with a blacklisted player? What’s the connection? This is why we conduct further investigation with the team before issuing bans. We may privately message individuals involved in the investigation before taking action. However, in some cases, where we’re certain, we proceed directly with bans.

We also investigate if accounts involved were bought from black markets. This is a serious offense on our server, as it affects server income for maintenance and @RESiSTANT . Instead of direct donations to support the server, players get cheap advantages through account buying and selling.
 
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The number of login attempts, along with the first HWID that logged into the account, is key. Think about it...the HWID initially registered on the account should belong to the account owner. While we didn’t have these logs like years or a decade ago, we now have statistical tools that make it possible.

For example, if I’m actively playing the account as a pilot, and then it’s suddenly accessed by a blacklisted player, it raises questions. Why would that pilot share the account with a blacklisted player? What’s the connection? This is why we conduct further investigation with the team before issuing bans. We may privately message individuals involved in the investigation before taking action. However, in some cases, where we’re certain, we proceed directly with bans.

We also investigate if accounts involved were bought from black markets. This is a serious offense on our server, as it affects server income for maintenance and @RESiSTANT . Instead of direct donations to support the server, players get cheap advantages through account buying and selling.
Sounds great!

Thank you
 

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Absolutely! Supporters should face significant penalties to discourage them from endorsing blacklisted players
 

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Ofcourse! Who knows if the one who supports is also sharing magic within. They will just destroy the fun in the game.
 

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We faced a similar issue years ago: players who were permanently banned started using "friends'" accounts to continue cheating. They’d get these accounts banned as well, and then play the victim, claiming they “didn’t know” — despite being fully aware of the rules and actively trying to protect their hacker friends.

Those who defend or protect blacklisted players are no better than the cheaters themselves. They show no respect for fair and honest players, undermining the integrity of the game for everyone.
 
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