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Explain to me who it is (Abuser) a person that has a Ping of 20 _ 60 whether
if the person that has ping 160 and 250 and one more thing how come a person with a ping between 160 and 250 are they are able to kill in 3 seconds person which has a smaller I ping between 20 - 60 dies person with ping 160 -250 and how come a person with a higher ping combo hits like a madman. In my opinion, a person with ping between 160 and above killing person of 50 ping because you are using an Wtfast and Pingzaper because how you can kill in 3 sec person with low ping as quickly.I expalin This on movie when i got a time and buy Wtfast i show u all :p ty Memorise
 
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First of all, PvP is not all about ping
But some people actually think that.
I have to agree it does actually help you in a battle because your hits register faster.
BUT PvP is not all about ping, For example if you get a 'decent' player with 200 ping to fight against a kinda bad player, Im sure the 'decent' will win, Just because he is more experienced at the game or just better in PvP.
But ping does affect PvP but it doesnt make a player 'good'

Its not all about ping, It only gives you a slight advantage..
Thanks for reading

PS 200ping isnt lagger trust me... ive been playing a lot of mmorpg and moba games with 200+ ping and I'm not having any trouble or lags nor delay with it..

This is me having 240ms, I didnt showed my ping here in the video tho im just stating here it for you I am from the Philippines :)


 
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I prove u wtfast and pingzaper use only for abuser why i record game with ping 50 and 160 but 1st i must got a time to record and i must buy this f.... program GRRRRRRRRRRR
 

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All online game require just 1-2mb internet speed... Why? because the packet send/receive are in kbs not in mbs. So how many kbs sent/receive infinitymu?? if you see on wtfast graph is less than 50 kbs per sec so that mean even a 512kbs internet provider can handle this game with max pot rate on sv3. But the internet provider must be really smooth. Is like a download speed, if you have 1gb internet you would do 20mb+ per sec. Just in game. the faster internet the max pot rate you can do at sv4 while sv 3 are just 3 pot per sec max.

So about ping 50-200. is just location shown where you are, even i have 100mb internet at my workplace that no one even use. we use it for chat service contact the customer. Still 100mb lose to 1mb internet at home. Why? cause my 1mb internet provider is better than my workplace 100mb. So even i play infinitymu at my workplace the smoothness is really bad. i barely do fast pot with it. While my 1mb internet at home max pot rate at sv3 and 5-6pot per sec on sv 4. So what i'm just saying is wherever we are we still got the same ping number, doesnt matter if you have 1gb internet speed the ping are the same and the smoothness are different each internet provider company.

And about lagger. I only call person lagger who died and still hit and doing combo when laying down on ground.(like 2-4 times a dead person sound)

So Pingzapper/Wtfast help you connect you tunnel ssh to the pingzaper/wtfast ssh ip with the setting ip you picked. Makes your ping closer to the server and reduce huge amount of delay. So even a 512kbs internet can get max pot rate on sv3 with using these ping reducer software but must have a smooth provider

So we could say you are lagger maybe your internet provider are bad and the pot rate is unbalanced. Like i say before the smoothness is most important and most of my video are my 1mb internet at home. so having a 100mb internet speed with bad provider are the worst than 1mb internet super smooth internet provider for online gaming.
 
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but do not forget that these programs can be used to use any lags which knows it all and I will prove it to you, that every independent Whatever program you use borders on fraud because everyone wants to be a pro go after the least line of resistance.And your post confirms the same you use lags .Give me a time and i show u ^^
 
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but do not forget that these programs can be used to use any lags which knows it all and I will prove it to you, that every independent Whatever program you use borders on fraud because everyone wants to be a pro go after the least line of resistance.And your post confirms the same you use lags .Give me a time and i show u ^^
All these program can be use intentional for making more lag if you want to. But why would you even want to be a lagger by choosing further from server to get high ping?

Pros and Cons picking a lagger server from these 2 programs

Pros.
1.Kill people easily while you die easily also or die you die first and can still hit.
that are the pros i can see for being as lagger
2.Do combo easily by not getting ref for 1-3 sec but you die by getting reflect ofcourse.

Cons.
1.Make yourself noob by seeing yourself dead and can still hit/do combo at the same time.
2.No pot glow... people can see you as lagger clearly.
3.Die easily.
4.Pot unbalanced... you see in game you look pot crazy but is not.. is actually you can still pot but the data sent to the server not receive.
5.Make your name even more noob.
6.You making yourself useless on teamfight pk.

Like i say why would you even want to be lagger if this making you worse?
 
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I'm mad because i keep explaining the same thing to player like you.. alot people see me in game explaining alot stuff and even asked me some advice for game, while people like you make me very stressful when i came back from work and release some stress playing infinitymu... and me as lag abuser?? i always record game whenever i see someone acuse me even tho the person ask duel dont want record himself... And now i'm also stressful cause i already explain everything to people like you and yet still acusing.. well having conversation with you wont settle things up.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, So you're saying. Why the player with 150~250 ping can kill player with 50~60 ping?

It's simple. Low Ping and High ping players are not lag at all. It's just there's a slight delay on animation or stuff.
It's like in Boxing, The lower the weight the faster you punch, The bigger the weight the slower you punch. But?
It doesn't mean the Heavier CAN'T PUNCH? Get my point?

2nd, We're on Server 3. So we have Potting cap.. Try fighting on server 4. 60ping obviously will have Faster Potrate.
150~250 will have slower ones.

(BTW? These are all example. Hope you get my point.)
 

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Im actually stressed by seeing this as a pointless thread.
Almost everything discussed here is very far from truth and it only induce the readers in error.
 

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Hello, the people that are lagging aren't trying to abuse the ping. Well atless some aren't. What if our lowest ping is only 273? Plus we are using Wtfast on france server. To some people with low ping, and trying to get Canadian then thats abuse. If you don't like the ping. please fill in a thread about trying to move host to USA! I wouldn't even get mad if the server is in usa. You should be lucky aas hell that server is in europe, and you have a wonderfull game with no lag. And plus we high pingers dont really lag all the time, the only time we do feel the lag is when its like DELAY FOR 1 SECOND OR TWO. thanks for reading my comment
 

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First of all, PvP is not all about ping
But some people actually think that.
I have to agree it does actually help you in a battle because your hits register faster.
BUT PvP is not all about ping, For example if you get a 'decent' player with 200 ping to fight against a kinda bad player, Im sure the 'decent' will win, Just because he is more experienced at the game or just better in PvP.
But ping does affect PvP but it doesnt make a player 'good'

Its not all about ping, It only gives you a slight advantage..
Thanks for reading

PS 200ping isnt lagger trust me... ive been playing a lot of mmorpg and moba games with 200+ ping and I'm not having any trouble or lags nor delay with it..

This is me having 240ms, I didnt showed my ping here in the video tho im just stating here it for you I am from the Philippines :)


Can you give me link to download that anti lag patch?
 

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Well, to be exact, it's not a really an issue. Like dude, come on, seriously, did guys even want high pings in the first place? High-ping players use ping reducing programs to enjoy the game even still with 250+ ping. High-ping players use this programs to even be avoided called being an 'abuser' too you know? This country of the Philippines has one of the suc.kest internet on the planet (not an opinion, it's a fact). We have an average of 2.5 mbps. To even add gas to the flames, this country also has one of the most expensive internet across the globe too (again, not an opinion but a fact). An average of 19 USD (US Dollars, around 900 PHP). To me, if you're really that batsh!t crazy about Infinity MU, be glad and feel lucky you live near to the server. You're an EU player, are you not?

Dude, next time be mindful of what you are trying to point out. I appreciate that you are trying to make a good discussion about lagging but what can we do really? About our pings? It's one of the country's problem we got crappy net too. Not just PH tho but to everyone out there who got crappy ISP's. Ever thought of it? Not that I am flaming you but this is not even a good discussion to talk about. I am merely expressing but this is kind of a pointless thread to even start in the first place

Piz. Happy playin'
 
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Well, to be exact, it's not a really an issue. Like dude, come on, seriously, did guys even want high pings in the first place? High-ping players use ping reducing programs to enjoy the game even still with 250+ ping. High-ping players use this programs to even be avoided called being an 'abuser' too you know? This country of the Philippines has one of the suc.kest internet on the planet (not an opinion, it's a fact). We have an average of 2.5 mbps. To even add gas to the flames, this country also has one of the most expensive internet across the globe too (again, not an opinion but a fact). An average of 19 USD (US Dollars, around 900 PHP). To me, if you're really that batsh!t crazy about Infinity MU, be glad and feel lucky you live near to the server. You're an EU player, are you not?

Dude, next time be mindful of what you are trying to point out. I appreciate that you are trying to make a good discussion about lagging but what can we do really? About our pings? It's one of the country's problem we got crappy net too. Not just PH tho but to everyone out there who got crappy ISP's. Ever thought of it? Not that I am flaming you but this is not even a good discussion to talk about. I am merely expressing but this is kind of a pointless thread to even start in the first place

Piz. Happy playin'

Before the ping reducing was hella useful in the server . Question Why ? Because there was not a limit on potion rate. They were reducing ping via using any kind of program in order to reach the maximum Pot-Ration and be more tough , yet now everybody got the same pot-ration and it doesnt matter what server you use your potion cool-down wont be more than 3. So in this case even EU players got lower ping around 70-100 and the Pinoys got 250-350 , this is truly favor for Pinoys ? Why? Because EU pot 3 Pinoys too but unlike EU they also lagging due to the highest Ping . High ping acutally block the reflection , thats why many ppl used lag abuse in order to get the faster combos . In some case the posters like Rupert and someone else is right , thet cannot do anything with their Ping , but it is also a bit unfair to those who live near to Host. Their ping lower but it doesnt really help them on PVP. It will continue like that untill there wont be enhancement on potion cool-down.
 

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Before the ping reducing was hella useful in the server . Question Why ? Because there was not a limit on potion rate. They were reducing ping via using any kind of program in order to reach the maximum Pot-Ration and be more tough , yet now everybody got the same pot-ration and it doesnt matter what server you use your potion cool-down wont be more than 3. So in this case even EU players got lower ping around 70-100 and the Pinoys got 250-350 , this is truly favor for Pinoys ? Why? Because EU pot 3 Pinoys too but unlike EU they also lagging due to the highest Ping . High ping acutally block the reflection , thats why many ppl used lag abuse in order to get the faster combos . In some case the posters like Rupert and someone else is right , thet cannot do anything with their Ping , but it is also a bit unfair to those who live near to Host. Their ping lower but it doesnt really help them on PVP. It will continue like that untill there wont be enhancement on potion cool-down.
I'm afraid I'm going to disagree on the part where we still got the advantage. Not all of us PH players get the 'perfect' 3 pots per second if that is what you are pertaining to where it's really perfect, as in 3 pots in a sec. I get 1-2 pots per sec even with ping reducers. My swell on BK is a little bit delay 40-50% of the time. No, I'm not talking about the past where there were no potting limit, don't go there. I am currently enjoying the server with pot delays. It's balanced the way I see it (my opinion, ofc). I don't know about the part where "high ping = blocks reflects" cuz I can't do sh!t in the game and everyone kills me within 5-10 second max without having to turn on ping reducing programs (not hacks, obviously).

No, not all people DO lag abuse. Believe me and believe Rupert just said back there. Remembering back on that USA server topic, I thought it would be nice if server was still on USA but with pot delays this time, just like Rupert said there. But due to past issues, USA server was crap (experience-based, that is why server was reverted back to EU few years ago). Now this is a discussion, not discussing lag abuse where players are being confronted with something that is out of their hands but rather do something and say helpful about it. Not completely crying/ranting/raging about it.
 

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IMO, at this time 90% of the players using wtfast or pingzapper not for fixin the lags ( as it was before ). They using these programs for abusing. I know many users which like that gameplay. With that high dmg sets ( cloud, mist etc ) with 3-4 pot per sec, If u play vs abuser (which isnt hard to find) - the 1st attacker always win.
Solution:
1. Block that programs - wtf, pingzpr and all similar to this proggy ( The players who has normal ping wont change the ping to higher )
2. Increase the pot rate to 6-7 per sec.
 

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Trivela u have total right u need pro look for this player. Dont forget Real Pro Nothing use ONLY NORMAL NET + NORMAL KAYBOR + MOUSE !!!. WTF & PZ NABS if u cant play with this programs ( WTF &PZ) Stop play is not Problem Server if use lags for kill = BAN that talk rules.I begin to respect the principles of server and their community
TY Memorise
 
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