Discussion Ancient Set Options Discussion

[RESiSTANT]

Hello friends!

I want to see your opinions about what ancient options you would like to see on some from the not so popular Ancient Sets than Hyon and Vicious combination and . We plan updating the sets which are not used in-game and those for the weaker classes such as SM, Elf and some other classes which ancient set options are squishy.


List of all ancient set options:

increase strength
increase agility
increase energy
increase vitality
increase minimum attack damage
increase maximum attack damage
increase damage
increase magic damage
increase damage successful rate %
increase defensive skill
increase maximum health
increase maximum mana
increase maximum stamina
increase stamina
increase critical damage rate %
increase critical damage
increase excellent damage rate %
increase excellent damage
increase skill damage
double damage rate %
ignore enemy's defense
increase shield's defence
two handed weapon damage increase



You can give your opinion like in this example:

Old Berserker Set


- Increases Maximum Damage +10
- Increases Maximum Damage +20
- Increases Maximum Damage +30
- Increases Maximum Damage +40
- Increases Skill Attacking Rate +40
- Increases Strenght +40

New Berserker Set
(I wish Berserker to be like this):


- Increases Maximum Damage +10
- Increases Maximum Damage +20
- Increases Maximum Damage +30
- Increases Maximum Damage +40
- Increases Skill Attacking Rate +40
- Increases Strenght +40

- Decreases Opponent's Def Rating 5%
- Increase Critical Damage Rate 15%



Or

Current Options of Ancient Sacred Set

- Increase Skill Attacking Rate +20

I wish Sacred to be like this:

- Increase Skill Attacking Rate +20
- Increase Double Damage Rate 20%



Go ahead and give your ancient set options. Remember that you must post version of the current ancient set options and new version of your ancient set options.

Of course your opinions must be based on your in-game experience but not just plain idea. Just post your opinion right after your versions of ancient set options.

 

[Lelouch]

im not really sure about changing the options on the current uber sets cause most players have already settled on buying a specific set for specific characters after studying the options of all the uber sets so changing the options would probably mess some things up and would be unfair for those who already bought their uber set if one weaker uber set suddenly became stronger than the other...just saying...


well for the SMOK i dont think there would be any issue about putting some more option cause its not like there are multiple weapon that can be wielded by multiple characters other than the SMOK...

 

[Cat Daddy]

Smok with double dmg ofc
Agnis current+ignr enemie's def
Kantata current+double dmg

 

[RESiSTANT]

im not really sure about changing the options on the current uber sets cause most players have already settled on buying a specific set for specific characters after studying the options of all the uber sets so changing the options would probably mess some things up and would be unfair for those who already bought their uber set if one weaker uber set suddenly became stronger than the other...just saying...


well for the SMOK i dont think there would be any issue about putting some more option cause its not like there are multiple weapon that can be wielded by multiple characters other than the SMOK...

Oldest sets will always remain stronger depending how we balance the options. The purpose is to put exact options and not make any set stronger than the other but just keep them somehow balanced. It's just to put some more boost for the sets which are not really used.

Smok with double dmg ofc
Agnis current+ignr enemie's def
Kantata current+double dmg

Browii already have this options. In combination with Agnis + Browii everything is OK.
Kantata + rave too. Double dmg is included already. Are you really purposing for this?

 

[RAMPAGE]

Hey Venci,
Im glad to hear you decided to change the opts on ancient sets so there are some other sets that are in play except hyon/vic.

First i would like to suggest the Bragi set. Since this is an uber set that cant be worn with any other uber set, i think it needs some pump in the damage. I mean its suppose to be stronger. For example vic is not that strong on its own but combined with hyon (you get 2 hyon opts) it actually fixes it. But for bragni its a set which is on its own and it needs some boosts. I suggest:

Old Bragi:
Increase strengh +60
Increase maximum health +50
Increase minimum damage +30
Incr dmg with 2 handed weps + 10%
Double damage rate + 10%
Incr skill attacking rate +50

New Bragi:
Increase strengh +60
Increase maximum health +50
Increase minimum damage +30
Double dmg rate +20%
Incr dmg with 2 handed weps + 15% (if possible)
Increase damage + 10%
Increase skill attacking rate + 50

Also i think the uber maahes needs a little more defence.

Old Maahes:
Increase maximum health +100
Chance to ignore opponents defense +10%
Increase defensive skill with shield +20%
Increase def skill + 15

New Maahes:
Increase maximum health + 100
Increase vitality + 100
Chance to ignore opponents defense +5% (since the uber is more based on defence than offense)
Increase defensive skill while using shield +30%
Increase defensive skill +30

Thats all my suggestions for now. I will suggest more when i have time Hope you like it.

Edit:
Including the Uber Rave. I think it deserves atleast 1 more option (since its a 3 part set)

Old Rave:
Incr skil attacking rate +20
Double damage rate +10%
Incr dmg with 2 swords + 30%
Dec opponents def rating +5%

New Rave:
Incr skil attacking rate +20
Double damage rate +10%
Incr dmg with 2 swords + 30%
Dec opponents def rating +5%
Increase strengh +60 ( im putting this option on the bottom so you can still get the double damage rate and incr skill attacking rate opts from wearing 2 parts)

 

[Rupert]

Old Berserker Set


- Increases Maximum Damage +10
- Increases Maximum Damage +20
- Increases Maximum Damage +30
- Increases Maximum Damage +40
- Increases Skill Attacking Rate +40
- Increases Strength +40

New Berserker Set
(I wish Berserker to be like this):


- Increases Maximum Damage +40
- Increases Skill Attacking Rate +30
- Increase Critical Damage Rate 20%
- Increase Damage Successful Rate 20%
- Double Damage Rate 15%
- Increases Skill Damage +10



Tyr sword : Would like to make Dark lords use them, so it really makes us officially different and what can go wrong? It doesn't have cyclone.

Shinning Scepter: with the same option as Tyr sword with a new fire pendant same option as scepter; maybe more critical damage options

I did this to remove the Maximum Damage Spam, but similar to it but just % numbers are up to you on how much you wanna put and I think its kinda useless using berserker when it dont feel like a berserker. Thanks

 

[CYCO]

I agree on adding Doube Dmg+% on SMOK, lately its been over shadowed by Tyr sword cuz obviously it has better accient option.

sets ill just state it on general,

On elf and sm sets, any option to increase their DMG significantly will surely be better like Double DMg or if they already have DD try
increasing it like from 10% t0 20 - 30% cuz their DMG truly is quite low.Damage success rate would be good too.

On DL's something to increase their Hp might be good, they have decent dmg and def anyway.

On Mg sets increasing Def and HP would be good like:
increase vitality
increase defensive skill
increase maximum health
increase maximum stamina
increase stamina
increase shield's defence

BK's same old OP char with the best acc set combinations. Except for those unpopular ones adding DD will make them better,
that's all the PvP freaks need "more" DMG.

 

[Estarozza]

That I think would be better new berserker , the change the mok Could annoy everyone Who has Donated to the sword and pendant tyr

Beneficiaries: The mok users will have a great benefit free

Affected : Those users go crazy and angry for your donation tyr in vain

 

[Lelouch]

ill be making your example an official suggestion...

Current Options of Ancient Sacred Set

- Increase Skill Attacking Rate +20

I wish Sacred to be like this:

- Increase Skill Attacking Rate +20
- Increase Double Damage Rate 20%

well i am aware that many BK have already donated for the uber tyr however it still remains that most BK have already donated on the uber SMOK believing that it was the strongest weapon in MU uber tyr set being compatible with BK and have a double damage rate in effect was not anticipated...
uber SMOK was supposed to be the best weapon being equipped by multiple classes but as it stands only DL would be using it now...
plus BK and DL used to be on same level on PVP but with the release of uber Tyr set BKs have overpowered the DLs...the suggestion above about making it possible for DL to use uber Tyr is also good however it would not work cause a full uber DL uses browii pendant and Tyr needs pendant for the double damage rate to activate...
about the ones who already donated for uber Tyr...would it not be possible to offer a change of uber weapon but only from tyr to SMOK...

and please dont get me wrong im not saying this because it works for me...i too use BK and have donated for tyr already


thanks...and sorry for the long post...

 

[RESiSTANT]

ill be making your example an official suggestion...


well i am aware that many BK have already donated for the uber tyr however it still remains that most BK have already donated on the uber SMOK believing that it was the strongest weapon in MU uber tyr set being compatible with BK and have a double damage rate in effect was not anticipated...
uber SMOK was supposed to be the best weapon being equipped by multiple classes but as it stands only DL would be using it now...
plus BK and DL used to be on same level on PVP but with the release of uber Tyr set BKs have overpowered the DLs...the suggestion above about making it possible for DL to use uber Tyr is also good however it would not work cause a full uber DL uses browii pendant and Tyr needs pendant for the double damage rate to activate...
about the ones who already donated for uber Tyr...would it not be possible to offer a change of uber weapon but only from tyr to SMOK...

and please dont get me wrong im not saying this because it works for me...i too use BK and have donated for tyr already


thanks...and sorry for the long post...

Mace of the King is still an great weapon because it has more speed and damage + Pink Option than Rune Blade. BKs buying Tyr Rune Blade because it's looking good to BK and the double damage option, but still MOK is way faster in combos.

 

[CYCO]

That I think would be better new berserker , the change the mok Could annoy everyone Who has Donated to the sword and pendant tyr

Beneficiaries: The mok users will have a great benefit free

Affected : Those users go crazy and angry for your donation tyr in vain

If I may butt in my opinion ye:, true if SMOK gets Double Dmg then it will surely be the best weapon you can ask for
but that doesn't mean you're Tyr will be useless , think about it
Tyr DD+20% + Smok DD+20%+Vicious +DD 10%=50% Double Dmg/ Smok+Tyr=40% Double dmg

If you only have Smok or Tyr u'll still get double Dmg either way. True SMOK 's speed and Dmg is higher so if you only
have tyr then try to compensate with ur 2nd weapon , like using HoS their close to smok also wiz ring.
Ofc PK ain't just about Options, Skill too.

The problem is , BK and DL will have a huge( or maybe just 10%) GAP on damage.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Adding double dmg to SMOK as well will just make duels end much much faster. I mean 50% double damage rate is just too much and with 3 pots per sec max that is just meaningless. Duels will end after 1-2 combos. SMOK is great for its attack speed and damage- nothing more is needed.

 

[Lelouch]

well seems like adding damage on SMOK suggestion wont get through...
if thats the case can we give agnis a power up???
we can have this...
original...
Double Damage Rate + 10%
Increase Defense +40
Increase Skill Damage +20
Full set Option
Increase Critical Damage Rate + 15%
Increase Excellent Damage Rate + 15%
Increase Critical Damage +20
Increase Excellent Damage +20


edited...
Double Damage Rate + 30%
Increase Defense +40
Increase Skill Damage +20
Increase Critical Damage Rate + 15%
Increase Excellent Damage Rate + 15%
Increase Critical Damage +20
Increase Excellent Damage +20
this would close the gap between BKs and DLs that was brought by the uber Tyr set...although i wouldn't really recommend it as it would make DL vs DL fight a lot faster...this is just an example...
what i would really want to suggest it to add a more defensive skill on agnis to compensate for the double damage 20% that BKs have gained from uber Tyr set...although i cant make the calculations for it thats why i had the additional damage as an example instead...
i have already tried fighting DL that can pot the maximum pots on server 3 and 5 and they are powerless against BKs with uber Tyr sword...i even tried just having them pot and same effect...

you guys can also try and see it...

 

[Demesne]

Additional 20% Double Damage from tyr users is just too much to take, tested and proven. I agree on adding double damage on smok but not to the extent that it would outperform tyr. I think adding 10% double damage on smok would somehow close the gaps and make fights more entertaining.

 

[_mk1]

try to research the hegaton set on google is a really nice set i think everyone would it

admin already know that...he already got that lol

the tyr dd change to 15% ... hate to say my first donation got waste (just 4 me) not in the server
so if there is smok+ try +vic bk is so strong just my opinion

 

[VlClOUS]

Old Eplete Scale Set opt.

Increase atack skill + 15
Increase atack + 50
Increase Wizardry dmg + 5%
Maximum HP +50
Increase maximum AG +30
Incr. Critical damage rate +10%
Excellent damage rate +10%


New Eplete Scale Set opt.

Increase atack skill + 15
Increase atack + 50
Double Damage Rate 10%
Ignore enemies Def 5%
Excellent Damage Rate 10%
Increase Shield Defence 10%
:idea_80_anim_gif:

 

[Armanent]

The new eplete set is same strong as the hyon right?

 

[ASS.HUNTER]

Hello. you guys talk about fair with DL and BK but you forgot one thing. on BK U. Hyion + Vic + Smok has +10% +10% +10% = 30% Double DMG rate
ann DL U. Agnis + browil + Smok Has + 10% +10% = 20% Double DMG rate. i mean that when you open anyof hyion or Vic you anyway wil lahve 20% Dobule DMG + SMok 10% = 30 but DL Only Agnis Have 10% Double DMG and SMOK browil dont have that option so GMS caan you add that option what you think about my oppinion ?