Discussion I need a real explanation..

[Prada]

Hello Infinitians,

My words can touch everyone and i need everyone's opinion.As you know in every server exist hack name*SH*->(Speed Hack).That *SH*
has levels since 1 due 12-.(1-12).As all know that's illegal to using any kind of hack but sometimes we doing a favor and help to our Staff (how we can) with reporting someone and don't let hackers to play.As We know the guide of *SH* Must Jumps 1 Kills double swells and bla bla bla.But all that i called items is happening only if you'll receice *SH* level more than 6.Then it's mean if you want be lucky on your report,enemy must be SH on max lvl.But what to do with them who using *SH* on low lvl.?If there no jumps no double swell's no 1 hits. .I just make this thread for saw real minds of ppl.(if someone got any idea).

-I'm saying it bcoz i'm already failed on my reports(Exucses but i dont have any anger to anyone).I just want hear from Staff (From Infinitians) How to catch a SHer on low lvl?

-Or maybe since now (SH) on low lvl is legal. If it's thanks for favor .

P.S No need useless posts.Real explanation.

 

[Dead]

Yeah Prata you're correct.Ppl with low lvl si too much and in videos its possible to see, but for sad no! wont belive that..It's a SH no matter low lvl or high, but that's.No another way for doing.

 

[Wayne]

Why don't you report in the program you're using and you brag about in public "everyone knows i use hacks i dont hide it" instead of complaining.

Catch them with abnormal damage, catch them jumping constantly.

Although I think differently on a personal level I also know what you're talking about because I reported quite a few users using SH (which I thought) they jumped 10 x in my report video but it got denied by GM's not sure why.

 

[NaturalS]

Staff can ****yze the SH if it is Low SH or too obvious SH. you worry about low level SH.
well, Staff can determine the damage of the row and the fast skill if it is low level SH.
that's why we have 5 GM's and 1HGM to criticize the proof, can judge if it is SH or not and also i can help them to say my opinion
staffs are veterans here, the old players here in InfinityMU so they know a lot of the moves and fast skills.

2nd one, they dont consider as SH if the proof is not 100%
they need 100% proof to make it sure it's SH.
They dont do such as random banned.

If staff will banned the player with not 100% evidence,
the players will blame the staff, why they banned the player if they are not sure.
we can compare in real life situation, example in the Court of Justice, they need 100% evidence
so that, the criminal will go to jail without any doubt.

-I'm saying it bcoz i'm already failed on my reports(Exucses but i dont have any anger to anyone).I just want hear from Staff (From Infinitians) How to catch a SHer on low lvl?

1. Fast TS / Fast Skill
2. Damage in the row
3. Less reflect

RESiSTANT wont agree the double swell is Speed Hack cuz he can reason "he could be lag."
even this one "qwE?qw" they dont consider as AP. Staff loves the players not by banning them.
so they need 100% evidence to make the things clear it out!

hope this comment will little enlighten your mind.

 

[Prada]

Staff can ****yze the SH if it is Low SH or too obvious SH. you worry about low level SH.
well, Staff can determine the damage of the row and the fast skill if it is low level SH.
that's why we have 5 GM's and 1HGM to criticize the proof, can judge if it is SH or not and also i can help them to say my opinion
staffs are veterans here, the old players here in InfinityMU so they know a lot of the moves and fast skills.

2nd one, they dont consider as SH if the proof is not 100%
they need 100% proof to make it sure it's SH.
They dont do such as random banned.

If staff will banned the player with not 100% evidence,
the players will blame the staff, why they banned the player if they are not sure.
we can compare in real life situation, example in the Court of Justice, they need 100% evidence
so that, the criminal will go to jail without any doubt.



1. Fast TS / Fast Skill
2. Damage in the row
3. Less reflect

RESiSTANT wont agree the double swell is Speed Hack cuz he can reason "he could be lag."
even this one "qwE?qw" they dont consider as AP. Staff loves the players not by banning them.
so they need 100% evidence to make the things clear it out!

hope this comment will little enlighten your mind.

Hello Jade,

You said about 100% evidence proof.You never can make a big differ between SH'er on level 2-3 or normal player.You never can make a proof 100% about SHer 2 or 3 level.Ppl will report them more and more but they'll failed bcoz there's not proof 100%.Smarter Guys still using SH on low lvl and they're still on freedom.But keep it buddy to be a veteran isnt mean you can consider a better opinion, sometimes staff also can do a mistake.

-Jade all i want a guide to how catch a SH'er on low level, i no need a staff opinion (exucses for rudely) but i saw what staff can or no.You have no ideas.I'm still with my mind. The ppl will use SH ever and ever on low lvl and they'll not get banned bcoz there no proof 100%, there no guide of it how catch them.!

 

[NaturalS]

-Jade all i want a guide to how catch a SH'er on low level

1. Fast TS / Fast Skill
2. Damage in the row
3. Less reflect

I wont consider jump here cuz he ask low level SH. low level SH wont often jump.
Fast turn wont consider as SH too, as RESiSTANT said i saw RESiSTANT opinion some in report sections.

I wrote it! I dont want to say more. I say my full opinion about this thread.

 

[Dead]

1. Fast TS / Fast Skill
2. Damage in the row
3. Less reflect

I wrote it! I dont want to say more. I say my full opinion about this thread.

+Fast Turn
+Fast Jump.

But Low Level

Also Can Fast Turn +Jump

 

[Prada]

I need a shorter/useful/helpful/ needed Post.Don't post here useless things!.

 

[Wayne]

1. Fast TS / Fast Skill
2. Damage in the row
3. Less reflect

I wont consider jump here cuz he ask low level SH. low level SH wont often jump.
Fast turn wont consider as SH too, as RESiSTANT said i saw RESiSTANT opinion some in report sections.

I wrote it! I dont want to say more. I say my full opinion about this thread.

This doesn't make any sense -_-.

1. Fast TS? How can you tell the difference between normal twisting slash and SD twisting slash.
2. Please explain what "damage in the row" is?
3. Less reflect is likely from SD set also!

also what is fast turn?

 

[Dead]

This doesn't make any sense -_-.

1. Fast TS? How can you tell the difference between normal twisting slash and SD twisting slash.
2. Please explain what "damage in the row" is?
3. Less reflect is likely from SD set also!

also what is fast turn?

Fast Turn This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGGhi8khpQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[Luigir]

seems good, but if you wanna help catching " HACKER" , make your video and let the Staff team do his job, or I'm wrong?
you can report " HACKERS" , yeah it will be appreciate, or no? I think so.
if you have idea about someone is using " SH " , etc. yeah you can report them, but isn't your fault the rest, just the staff will decide if is true or no.

-I'm saying it bcoz i'm already failed on my reports(Exucses but i dont have any anger to anyone).I just want hear from Staff (From Infinitians) How to catch a SHer on low lvl?

no only you would be denied a report, Even me or everyone.
you got my point?


My opinion.

 

[Prada]

seems good, but if you wanna help catching " HACKER" , make your video and let the Staff team do his job, or I'm wrong?
you can report " HACKERS" , yeah it will be appreciate, or no? I think so.
if you have idea about someone is using " SH " , etc. yeah you can report them, but isn't your fault the rest, just the staff will decide if is true or no.




no only you would be denied a report, Even me or everyone.
you got my point?


My opinion.

Hello Unmistakable,

I think you dont get what i mean.But Anyway i'll answer you.I know everything about and i know how to report and i already was know the opinions of ppl when maked.Bcoz whatever you want say people always find something negative to tell.The SpeedHack has 1-12 level.

-The Guide of our dear Community to catch hackers is* Jumps,Double/Trible Sweel/1 hit/Fast movie.But that's all happening if the person using it receive hack more than 6 level of *SH*.When you put only 2-3-4 level its impossible to catch you when you Jump/Sweeling/1 Hitter and bla bla..When you reporting Players even using hack on low level our dear Staffs saying *Not enough proof*.So thats why i create that thread .

-I need someone's usefull opinion/advice/post for known how to catch *SH*ers on low level.But as i see still they have no ideas.That's mean smart player will use hack on low lvl and he'll never get banned bcoz of not enough proof.And he'll be in freedom.That's what i want to say.I hope you get what'm mean.

-Thanks Josh.

 

[HARREN]

Game Masters can't just set up ban on not enough proof case, because they will cannot defend theirselves in ban appeal.(In most of cases it's low level speedhack) it's hardly detectable I know, but what else can you do? Most of excuse of cheaters with low level sh can be I had lags, hidden crit and other excuses which can be known, but GM's can't do nothing else just to unban them. Because they can't proove it that they really used it. Is it explanation enough for you? And btw, all you can do in such cases is to wait for oponent fail...

 

[MASiGLA]

2-3-4 Level Fast rows of Damage's it looks bmd but for the second its some low level of speedhack (cause it has reflect) ask to show their set and when their afraid to show it then its not SD (Well too obvious if ever they will use sd)
as far as i know speedhack will make you lag when you set it in its higher level

Hope it will be blocked soon

 

[Jes]

Hello Josh,
For me I can determine the SH in low level if I still die even I have continues potting rate.
And the damage row is not norma and if they move too fast SH in low level 2-3 has a Different movement I know you know itl. You can notice it coz you know a lot of things here.
And about the your failed reports, I understand it too, I have failed reports too. (Many)
Now I understand the Staffs why they all need a 100% evidence, Because of Jade's example. )

Better Solution: BLOCK THAT FCKN Speed Hack.

 

[Amiel]

As for me, you'll have to have a good sense judgement and a lot of trial and errors to distinguish someone using hacks. For example you might want to trick them to do it over and over again until you are sure that he/she is using hacks. And most importantly you'll have to be aware of what kind of hacks are out there , you'll have to know how they really work and how they affect one's character.

 

[Classi]

Hello Josh, let me say what I have to say and it might be off topic so forgive me. The way I look at it is that, hack is like a disease, you can't stop or cure them from effecting the game play. Everyone uses hack, even yourself, even me and even our GMs (please don't get me wrong). Why is everyone uses hack? Honestly, I don't know but from my own experience, I uses it because I was under the influence. Everyone uses it, so to be able to fight par with them, I must / have to use it. The more you use it, the more accustomed and the more you like it and that is one of the reason why people keep using it. They will find new hacks to use if the old one is blocked. The hacks will keep on coming and there is no way in stopping them. Like I said, it is a disease cannot be cure.

@Topic, low lvl SH is hard to catch. If a smart player is using a low lvl SH, it is impossible to catch him. Why? Because I've been there done that. Lets say the player is only using a lvl 2, no jumps, no multiple swells, not so much of a fast kill and I noticed that, if you use Rage Blow at lvl 2, the speed is not much of a big difference, hard to tell, in other words, un-catchable. A smart player will always find his way around the hack and make himself invisible so you won't be able to catch them.

Better Solution: BLOCK THAT FCKN Speed Hack.

Like JES said, better to block it if you want to have a better gaming experience. Send in the working hack. I've send in all of mine. Unfortunately, some are still isn't blockable. Here is what I think would be a suitable solution for this topic since low level SH is really hard to catch, only if you're lucky enough.

1. GM Team must need to outsmart the hackers. Stop the hack or even block it before they get into the server to avoid something like this. Now, it can be a lot of hard work but if the Staff are dedicate to this server enough, this can be possible. If you're a dedicated Infinitain and try to keep this server a clean game play experience, you should apply for Staff team. You got my support on that. However, we still aren't friends due to our past but I will support your idea.

 

[Wayne]

^ I'll be honest I would never hack. Why? It's immoral and I won't feel good using an unfair advantage over another person. But you're right MANY people here do use hacks and deny it but accuse others of using them without proof to make themselves look better. Pisses me off.

We need to block all that ****, as long as hacks are available people will use them.

 

[CRANZY]

Better Solution: BLOCK THAT FCKN Speed Hack.

some hax can't be block or maybe it's hard to block . players are wised they always thinking how to used and how to run that program even it is block or not . to many ways , Honestly I'm using hax for a long time but now i'll stop it and all my hax has been surrender .

 

[Subzero]

Just let them use their hacks until they fail and in the end they will beg and cry.

P.S: let the kids play and enjoy the game.