Macro

[Deli]

I'm here to suggest to allow again macro in game.

Reasons:

- Almost everyone is using it, its something very fast and easy to get so peoples just rink themselves, the problem is that some peoples still respect rules and dont use it so they just have very disadvantage agasnt players using and it is not fair, unfortunate is something that is already inserted in the game, i believe making it released would be much better and turn game more fair to everyone. I dont see macro as hack, i like more old style with hands but come on, nowadays who's playing like this? let's just be fair to everyone.

- it's impossible to totally ban itself from the game, you can't block my mouse, my keyboard, and thats something always present in the game history, but before were very few that have acess of it (unfair), nowadays everyone has and thats it, unfortunate is something that is already inserted in the game already and in my point of view best we can do, is accept it and learn to live with the macro use.


Well guys, i dont have to much to say I'd like to know you all opinion but in my time in-game I just saw peoples flaming each other for macro but you can see almost everyone using it, thats day by day tons peoples being banned by macro and I think the best way to make things fair to everyone in-game is allow it again, thats my opinion wish to see you all opinion.

I wanna see some feedback for that also.
Someone can says

macro is a hack, macro's are forbidden

but ppl need to understand that. MACRO IS NOT HACK its just 3rd party software.

if you guys remember a while ago macro was allowed. Also im sure of that, that persons who says macro is hack, replied someone's ap/ac report when it was allowed " its allowed bro. read the rules again "

not me not my friends not other players didnt added that rule ( allow macro ) before. Staff team did it. and as i can understand nikki says staff team allowed macro before and its meaning staff team allowed hack? or they just let only 3rd party program ?


Even chidish boys can understand wats purpose on this topic.

and and and if even i say im using macro it doesnt prove anything and noone can ban for that. you need prove like SS or video or something like that.

If that thread was otherwise like " allow speed hack again or allow anti ref again" im agree to ban who suggest that. But its not like that.

and ppl need to see some respect from staff team, like; let reply players and lets see what they thinking about that. because that macro was allowed before, and why not for now ? even if not accepted let players reply then.

im not saying that to make it allow again but as my friend [MENTION=3214]SuperStell[/MENTION] i wanna hear some thoughts ​

p.s. i hope someone dont remove my vip tag... :wut:

 

[XromAzero]

i want back
allowed macro
because i see in game 90 % player use macro and they hide
first time all say antihack will catch but antihack cant catch anything
i know who use macro but if we got proff or without proff we got same problem we cant ban them
if all want catch macro player we need good antihack for block macro mouse
but antihack cant catch,and all record for proff or SS for proff
best way back macro for make fairy
its my opinion
thx for respect

 

[BeN]

i agree that tons of players still use ac and ap , so hard to catch them,
only a handful of players get caught, if you guys cant block gaming mouse and keyboard then allow them and thats it
+ think how much hatred is between players, everyone is suspecting everyone ing

 

[Koshax]

Ofc, i vote to back the old game rules, if possible [MENTION=1]RESiSTANT[/MENTION] do it for Your Server players.
i was look the old rules, so i did donated 150$ 3 acc, but now Macro illegal, now i do not have enjoyable game . i respect the game rules, but i would the old game rules.

 

[Halfdanjal]

So.. In PvP (Player versus Player) server, you want to simply press one button for auto pot, second button for auto combo, then just hold down ctrl if necessary and keep hovering your cursor over your enemy, after which, if successful kill is gotten, gloat that your machine was better than his machine or hands? This is not MvM (Machine versus Machine), it's PvP. If you are not doing all the work, what is the point to play then? Literally 0 skill involved.

Then there comes the pure macro lovers, who say, that it takes million hours a day to perfect their macro, which is much work and very hard, so on and so on. Why don't you invest that time to LEARN COMBO WITH HANDS?!

It's pathetic, and I don't care if macro lovers will hate me for this, but all of you don't need to upgrade your macro's, you need to upgrade your IQ's. Macro was allowed because people did not care for the rule, they kept getting themselves banned, so a try was given to allow such feature, which caused so damn many legit hand players to leave, which is very insane to begin with. It simply did not work out, so it was forbidden once again, which, no wonder, brought back some old players that play legit with hands. With that, new group was introduced (Combo Master), for people to actually shine if they are good with their hands. Now THAT is an accomplishment, not some stupid macro that even a monkey could use, if given the opportunity and the right tools.

Now on some other point. 3rd party software. Hacks fall in literally the same bucket, they are also 3rd party software. Want some easy definition? Hacks can be literally anything, that enhances your abilities in game, by giving you an advantage over players that DO NOT use any kinds of software.

I understand though, that this is brought up because even though it's forbidden, people still use it and disregard the possible consequences, which is a fair point. Unskilled players will always use the opportunity to "get better" with 3rd party software. Saddening. What saddens me even more is that you guys want to lower yourselves to the same level.

No matter what we do, allow macro or don't, part of players will not like any, so it's a scenario with 2 not so good choices, either macro is allowed and again part of people leave and are mad about such update being re-introduced, or we shut it down for good, as in say, that there is no way that macro will be ever allowed to be used again, which will also make a different part of people mad and unsatisfied.

Either way, I stand for logical opinion, player versus player should actually be player versus player, not letting machines do all the work. If you consider machines playing for you a fun game to play, play some mobile heroes or whatever it is where you click once in a while and game does all the things for you

 

[Varamyr]

you guys are already using macro why you want it to be allowed? what will change to you? to not be caught?
Learn how to use your fingers and be pro in the game because you are really good and and not cuz of a program...practice make you good! Give a Man a Fish, and You Feed Him for a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, and You Feed Him for a Lifetime

For me is No

 

[Dante.]

Hello.

First at all I wanna thank you for this post, you saved my time because I want to have a little talk about macro.

With all my respect to our Senior GM [MENTION=76]Nikki[/MENTION] I have to say that I never heard so much lies from you. And I'm talking about this post here:

Its looks like you dont know what actually macro is and how it works if you call it hack/cheat. Macro records everything you do on your keyboard/mouse and can be useful in game (Not only Mu Online). It just allow you to set combination of buttons just to one and gives you more time on guild wars/raids/pvp. It's not a cheat but innovation, most of the games have macro system IN GAME so you dont have to pay for mouse/keyboard. It's a exactly same thing like a EXP BOTs on Webzen Mu online version. Do you guys remember days when we had to pay for bot that help us exp on spot? Collect our items and allow us to stay safe afk? Webzen knows it's a innovation not a cheat that's why we have Mu Helper in game now...Macro is exactly same thing.

Do you guys really think you can hurt anybody from the top of pvp ranking if you block the macro? Good written macro cannot be detected and also cannot fail on chat, its simple impossible. That's why you can catch only those with bad macros or someone who pay for cheap version of autpot. Also think about people who dont wanna use macro because they are afraid of ban, they dont have chance on pvp events and also on Arena. They'll hate the game and leave.

Nikki you are smart guy and I'm sure you know that macro cant be block but if you wanna stay with your lies I want to challenge you. Block macro in game, software or anything you like. You can ask for help [MENTION=1]RESiSTANT[/MENTION] or anyone from tech support. If you do that I'll donate 500$ to server account/yours or any charity you gonna chose. But I can tell you now it's just impossible...

Please dont close this thread.
I wanna see people opinion about thing thing, dont forget that people creating this server.


Thanks!

 

[BeN]

kron is not about lowering ourselves, is just that we play an unfair game against macro users, and is simply impossible to catch most of them , atleast when they were allowed everyone had them and thats it no1 could complain , ofcourse there were peoples who had no ideea how to edit a macro but there were lots of players who were helping them with that

when venci told last year that he will block macro , he spoke about apps and mouse/keyboard, i was agreeing with that but 1 year later mouse and keyboard is not blocked so yh , if you guys cant block them then make it fair for everyone by allowing macro

 

[Obito]

I completely agree to allow the use of macros again in the game. Some time ago its use was allowed that means that many players bought a mouse or keyboard with features that allow them to configure their keys or buttons.
prohibiting the use of macro does not guarantee that all those people stop using the article they obtained to have a better playability.
I think the most fair thing would be that if they are not going to ban all the gaming peripherals that can be configured as well as their softwares the best thing would be to allow them again, in this way those who do not have one can acquire it and those who already have it can continue to enjoy with full freedom


For me : yesss

 

[Dante.]

So.. In PvP (Player versus Player) server, you want to simply press one button for auto pot, second button for auto combo, then just hold down ctrl if necessary and keep hovering your cursor over your enemy, after which, if successful kill is gotten, gloat that your machine was better than his machine or hands? This is not MvM (Machine versus Machine), it's PvP. If you are not doing all the work, what is the point to play then? Literally 0 skill involved.

Then there comes the pure macro lovers, who say, that it takes million hours a day to perfect their macro, which is much work and very hard, so on and so on. Why don't you invest that time to LEARN COMBO WITH HANDS?!

It's pathetic, and I don't care if macro lovers will hate me for this, but all of you don't need to upgrade your macro's, you need to upgrade your IQ's. Macro was allowed because people did not care for the rule, they kept getting themselves banned, so a try was given to allow such feature, which caused so damn many legit hand players to leave, which is very insane to begin with. It simply did not work out, so it was forbidden once again, which, no wonder, brought back some old players that play legit with hands. With that, new group was introduced (Combo Master), for people to actually shine if they are good with their hands. Now THAT is an accomplishment, not some stupid macro that even a monkey could use, if given the opportunity and the right tools.

Now on some other point. 3rd party software. Hacks fall in literally the same bucket, they are also 3rd party software. Want some easy definition? Hacks can be literally anything, that enhances your abilities in game, by giving you an advantage over players that DO NOT use any kinds of software.

I understand though, that this is brought up because even though it's forbidden, people still use it and disregard the possible consequences, which is a fair point. Unskilled players will always use the opportunity to "get better" with 3rd party software. Saddening. What saddens me even more is that you guys want to lower yourselves to the same level.

No matter what we do, allow macro or don't, part of players will not like any, so it's a scenario with 2 not so good choices, either macro is allowed and again part of people leave and are mad about such update being re-introduced, or we shut it down for good, as in say, that there is no way that macro will be ever allowed to be used again, which will also make a different part of people mad and unsatisfied.

Either way, I stand for logical opinion, player versus player should actually be player versus player, not letting machines do all the work. If you consider machines playing for you a fun game to play, play some mobile heroes or whatever it is where you click once in a while and game does all the things for you

What the hell are you talking about Kronwell...Its not a discussion to add macro to the game because macro is already IN. What is the sense of pvp events if most of players use macro? What is the sense of training you combo by hand if guy with macro always will be better than you. If you cant block macro than give it to everyone, create a forum section with macro scripts and let everyone use it.

Trust me Kronwell I wish to play this game with my hands only because this is the way I start and i know how to combo. But hands players dont have a chance vs machines like you say. We have 2020 my friend when this server stays on 2008

 

[Halfdanjal]

kron is not about lowering ourselves, is just that we play an unfair game against macro users, and is simply impossible to catch most of them , atleast when they were allowed everyone had them and thats it no1 could complain , ofcourse there were peoples who had no ideea how to edit a macro but there were lots of players who were helping them with that

I know, I know. I realise that this suggestion is brought up just because people still do it no matter what are the rules and it creates this stupid situation where people that obey the rules are the victims to some degree.

 

[Varamyr]

what about if the punishment of using macro will be more tough! what about if you got banned and cant make new char you will still using it? now its one month and everyone is like yea ill make a new char and i will still using it..what about if you cant?

 

[Dante.]

what about if the punishment of using macro will be more tough! what about if you got banned and cant make new char you will still using it? now its one month and everyone is like yea ill make a new char and i will still using it..what about if you cant?

What it you cant detect macro? You can't fail on chat when you using it. All those bans for macro are for player who wrote macro for the first time. Find me just one "famous" name banned for macro

 

[RESiSTANT]

Enough with this! Also stop any discussions @ the shoutbox regarding this topic.


Server got emptied after we allowed macro back in the days and the rules will remain strict against all kind of third party programs that improve your game. For those who think it's better to allow macros ingame, please read my post here : https://forum.infinitymu.net/showth...s-OFF!&ampp=1499622&ampviewfull=1#post1499622
Also I have done some next gen sh.t that antivirus programs use to stop viruses. This never been used before in anticheat. Just have some patience. You will see that we can defend against any cheats including macro software or hardware (gaming gears).

If you want to let your mouse do everything and you just sit and watch then find some other game.