PvP system

[RighteousBoner]

Hello fellas :serious business:.
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I know such a thread has been created many times, but I feel like to do it one more time.

I've been in game for some hours and I'm kinda surprised (in bad way) :swoon:.

I ain't got no much free time for playing, but I like this server; thus, I'll like if it improves.

There's actually one thing I would like to say there.

And the thing is, loved by everyone, PvP :yes:.

I shall divide this into two groups - current situation and solutions.

Lets begin...

Current situation

+ Many players
+ Perfect version - season 3
+ Stable hosting - no lags
+ Friendly environment - when Pagan is offline :gangs: (jkin')

All these things make Infinity MU being a perfect server...

However, PvP isn't really good for the following...

- 1. BM's got too high HP
- 2. DL's got too high DEF
- 3. DL's got no fire scream
- 4. ELF is a tank for ??? what reason? :err:
- 5. SM is good for only giving MS
- 6. ​MG... better... no comment :daydreaming:
- 7. Lame duel abusing​

Also, I'm adding some additional info 'bout.

Point no. 1:
During the PvP events opponents are forced to remove helmets or any other part of their gear. BM using a shield is immortal, unless you're many + full buffed vs 1. Also, no other character can kill BM.

Point no. 2:
Another immortal character, even the thread was created (http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthread.php?40492-DL-More-balance). High DEF, average DMG, it reminds me of BM not DL :wtfsmilie:.

Point no. 3:
Log in and see... fire scream was made useless, for DL had kick'd arse so bad.

Point no. 4:
When elf buffs itself, it actually gets immortal as well, unless you're full buffed or many vs 1. Why?

Point no. 5:
I'm not really sure about this point, if there are some pro SM pk-ers sign up here, pls , but I've seen none so far.

Point no. 6:
I think this doesn't require any comment.

Point no. 7:
What the **** kind of pk is it when few lamers need to duel each other in order to receive buffs before PvP? Sorry guys maybe I'm lame..., but this is even more, this literally ****s.

Solutions​

Point no. 1:
Reduce HP of BM by 50%. 200 000 +/- HP would be perfectly enough.

Point no. 2 + 3:
Reduce DEF of DL + make fire scream to work. This step will make DL weaker in DEF but great in DMG. If you set it up well, it will be just perfect.

Point no. 4:
Reduce DEF of ELF, it's got buffs to buffs its buddies who're supposed to protect it, so it doesn't have to be a tank itself, LOL.

Point no. 5:
DEF is ok, add more DMG and give players who play with SM chance to enjoy this server.

Point no. 6:
Barely seen a server where MG is an useful character, it's kinda in the BM's shadow. Maybe more DMG than BM and less DEF.

Point no. 7:
Punish the duel abusers. How? Make a fraps, report it, ban it. Or block it in game, if that is possible.



That's it so far.

Written very briefly and it's my opinion to make the server more exciting.

How to set things up, that's up to Infinity staff and testers :winkk:.

I've been testing and calibrating characters on other server, so I know it can be done and if you want the sever to rock, it has to be done! :cooll:



Once again, this is made neither to offend, nor to dishonest one's job; however, to help, to give an idea and to improve once a perfect place!

Cheers mates! :serious business:

 

[DrugsWashBrains]

Nice Job Dude You Work Hard To Write This

 

[MuBM]

Solutions​

[/COLOR][/SIZE]Point no. 1:
Reduce HP of BM by 50%. 200 000 +/- HP would be perfectly enough.

Point no. 2 + 3:
Reduce DEF of DL + make fire scream to work. This step will make DL weaker in DEF but great in DMG. If you set it up well, it will be just perfect.

Point no. 4:
Reduce DEF of ELF, it's got buffs to buffs its buddies who're supposed to protect it, so it doesn't have to be a tank itself, LOL.

Point no. 5:
DEF is ok, add more DMG and give players who play with SM chance to enjoy this server.

Point no. 6:
Barely seen a server where MG is an useful character, it's kinda in the BM's shadow. Maybe more DMG than BM and less DEF.

Point no. 7:
Punish the duel abusers. How? Make a fraps, report it, ban it. Or block it in game, if that is possible.

good idea,but if they reduce bk hp 50% 200 000 +/- HP,who else will use BK if the point no. 2+3 is applied,imagine every second you are hitted by a DL with a max dmg of 60k and above,it will just take seconds pvping with a BKvsDL,fast potters got only a little problem here,but how about the others?

about point 4,yes they got a high def,I think Resi did that on purpose,Low Def+Low Dmg+Use for Buffs Only = Useless if you want fun in pvp

@Point 6,if you want fun pvping with your mg,you can just go to server 5

Summary of Solution: balancing the pvp with all chars,yes?

nice sharing bro

 

[RighteousBoner]

good idea,but if they reduce bk hp 50% 200 000 +/- HP,who else will use BK if the point no. 2+3 is applied,imagine every second you are hitted by a DL with a max dmg of 60k and above,it will just take seconds pvping with a BKvsDL,fast potters got only a little problem here,but how about the others?

Of course, I've also taken this problem into account.

However, mate, nobody says DL's DMG must stay the same as now, it can be either increased or decreased as needed.

That's why it's needed to make few tests and get it done through.
So I don't see a problem at this point :happyy:.

@Point 6,if you want fun pvping with your mg,you can just go to server 5

Cool, so we've got one point solved :cooll:, ty.

nice sharing bro

Thanks! :winkk:

 

[Abesta]

I am agree with all these words. Coz Game to boreed when fight good pot vs good pot. We need to off 2 or 3 items
PvP is good too now, but if changed like your said, it will be perfect

 

[RESiSTANT]

Point no. 1:
Reduce HP of BM by 50%. 200 000 +/- HP would be perfectly enough.

Point no. 2 + 3:
Reduce DEF of DL + make fire scream to work. This step will make DL weaker in DEF but great in DMG. If you set it up well, it will be just perfect.

Point no. 4:
Reduce DEF of ELF, it's got buffs to buffs its buddies who're supposed to protect it, so it doesn't have to be a tank itself, LOL.

Point no. 5:
DEF is ok, add more DMG and give players who play with SM chance to enjoy this server.

Point no. 6:
Barely seen a server where MG is an useful character, it's kinda in the BM's shadow. Maybe more DMG than BM and less DEF.

Point no. 7:
Punish the duel abusers. How? Make a fraps, report it, ban it. Or block it in game, if that is possible.

I can agree with the half, but the whole server cannot be updated by one comment and opinion. I don't think most people will be agree with this.

 

[Zeus]

1. BKs are supposed to have the most HP, and they die too easy already, we don't wanna make them too squishy.
3. Firescream was put with 3 sec cooldown because of problems and many complains in the past due to mount bug. (And it still works)
5. They can't really kill you, and it's not that tanky really, what's the big deal, we buffed up elves so they won't be just 1 hit as they were before, you're the onlyone complaining bout this, honestly.
7. We did gave once damage to SMs and then BKs were losing to them from ice storm, and a lot of people were complaining bout it, you guys got to make up your minds.
9. Strong MGs can be found in server 4, try it out.
11. We're blocking programs all the time, and also the creator of Game Guard has to update it,and trying to figure out how to fix the bugs between chars (DL - BK etc.), we got an idea and will look into it,

I hope i answered.

 

[TechN9ne]

Point no. 1:
During the PvP events opponents are forced to remove helmets or any other part of their gear. BM using a shield is immortal, unless you're many + full buffed vs 1. Also, no other character can kill BM.

I'm not agree with this. As you said there's a lot of buffers. Even with 400 000 hp hard to stand against buffed opponents, realize if there will be 200 000 hp, BM will be useless here, he will die in few hits, if you want to decrease hp on 50% then we also have to decrease damage for a half.

Point no. 2:
Another immortal character, even the thread was created (http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthre...L-More-balance). High DEF, average DMG, it reminds me of BM not DL .

Point no. 3:
Log in and see... fire scream was made useless, for DL had kick'd arse so bad.

I will not agree to decrease DL's defense, because DL can die EASILY from BM with uber or just with combo. Agree about to make fire scream work, then there will be sense to play with DL.

Point no. 4:
When elf buffs itself, it actually gets immortal as well, unless you're full buffed or many vs 1. Why?

Agree to decrease elf's defense, when fast potter plays on elf then it's just impossible to take him down.

Point no. 5:
I'm not really sure about this point, if there are some pro SM pk-ers sign up here, pls , but I've seen none so far.

Seriously, SM is weak here, only for assisting, there's many players who likes SM and i think they'll be agree to increase damage on SM.

Point no. 6:
I think this doesn't require any comment.

Disagree, try to play on server 4, MG is the strongest class out there.

Point no. 7:
What the **** kind of pk is it when few lamers need to duel each other in order to receive buffs before PvP? Sorry guys maybe I'm lame..., but this is even more, this literally ****s.

I'm not sure Administrators will add such rule.

 

[RighteousBoner]

I am agree with all these words. Coz Game to boreed when fight good pot vs good pot. We need to off 2 or 3 items
PvP is good too now, but if changed like your said, it will be perfect

Thank you :happyy:.

I can agree with the half, but the whole server cannot be updated by one comment and opinion. I don't think most people will be agree with this.

The official poll can be easily done, but I'm not pushing anyone. Take your time.

BKs are supposed to have the most HP, and they die too easy already, we don't wanna make them too squishy.

No they don't easily die.

Reducing the HP and a little bit DMG wouldn't screw a thing.

Firescream was put with 3 sec cooldown because of problems and many complains in the past due to mount bug. (And it still works)

I've seen similar policy elsewhere. Block instead of fix, yeah that is also possible.

They can't really kill you, and it's not that tanky really, what's the big deal, we buffed up elves so they won't be just 1 hit as they were before, you're the onlyone complaining bout this, honestly.

I'm actually a visitor only. I don't really play here, 'cause I've got no time. So I amazed how blind the players are. No offense guys.

We did gave once damage to SMs and then BKs were losing to them from ice storm, and a lot of people were complaining bout it, you guys got to make up your minds.

Then you probably set up the DMG too high. And again the same policy... block or destroy instead of fix up.

Strong MGs can be found in server 4, try it out.

Yeah, thanks.

We're blocking programs all the time, and also the creator of Game Guard has to update it,and trying to figure out how to fix the bugs between chars (DL - BK etc.), we got an idea and will look into it.

Good job. Thank you for your answer.

I'm not agree with this. As you said there's a lot of buffers. Even with 400 000 hp hard to stand against buffed opponents, realize if there will be 200 000 hp, BM will be useless here, he will die in few hits, if you want to decrease hp on 50% then we also have to decrease damage for a half.

Yeah, of course, DMG should be decreased a little big along with HP.

However, BM dies fast vs buffs would be logical, even I disagree with you, 'cause BM doesn't really die vs buffs right now.

You must have crit+dmg+fenrir... then, maybe, BM dies.

I will not agree to decrease DL's defense, because DL can die EASILY from BM with uber or just with combo. Agree about to make fire scream work, then there will be sense to play with DL.

No DL doesn't easily die, unless the pilot is asleep.

About fire scream it's exactly as you say.

Agree to decrease elf's defense, when fast potter plays on elf then it's just impossible to take him down.

Indeed.

Seriously, SM is weak here, only for assisting, there's many players who likes SM and i think they'll be agree to increase damage on SM.

Indeed.

Disagree, try to play on server 4, MG is the strongest class out there.

Yup, I've got this answer 3 times, I shall remember that, ty.

I'm not sure Administrators will add such rule.

You can also keep it lame, I'm not pushing :winkk:.



In conclusion, I can see things like it's not possible, I'm not sure, I don't think, it can't... etc.

Be motivated guys, think like lets get it done, lets improve something, lets be best, lets rock...

But as I said, I'm not pushing anyone. I offerend few ideas and that's it.

We shall see. Have a nice evening :serious business:.