[Suggestion] Auto-Pot counter measures + equal potting for all.

[RAMPAGE]

You know i gotta agree with Nevergiveup. I gotta say i feel really bad for the people without uber after this change. BECAUSE seriously you say equality but the way i see it you are taking peoples money even more now. Like seriously i have been here for a really long time and at first everything was easy to get. At around 2008/2009 the credit reward from voting was so high that you could get 1 FO Item for 3 days voting....NOW? Now its different.Hard to get FO Items fast. What im trying to say is that if your goal is to make everyone equal, they wont be. There will still be the UBER guys ( which paid for game ) and the FO guys ( which cant afford it or just dont want to bother wasting money for a game ) That is not equality. And dont tell me it will be possible that FO can kill Uber because it wont be. For example an uber with 3pots will deffinately win vs FO with 3 pots. Its just the dmg. So yeah people keep encouraging for this change.

 

[Heruvim]

You know i gotta agree with Nevergiveup. I gotta say i feel really bad for the people without uber after this change. BECAUSE seriously you say equality but the way i see it you are taking peoples money even more now. Like seriously i have been here for a really long time and at first everything was easy to get. At around 2008/2009 the credit reward from voting was so high that you could get 1 FO Item for 3 days voting....NOW? Now its different.Hard to get FO Items fast. What im trying to say is that if your goal is to make everyone equal, they wont be. There will still be the UBER guys ( which paid for game ) and the FO guys ( which cant afford it or just dont want to bother wasting money for a game ) That is not equality. And dont tell me it will be possible that FO can kill Uber because it wont be. For example an uber with 3pots will deffinately win vs FO with 3 pots. Its just the dmg. So yeah people keep encouraging for this change.

All i understood from this is that you are mad, cause you cannot show your " superiority" with over 10 pots per second against someone with 2-3
F.o can't win against uber? that's one big bull****

 

[RESiSTANT]

You know i gotta agree with Nevergiveup. I gotta say i feel really bad for the people without uber after this change. BECAUSE seriously you say equality but the way i see it you are taking peoples money even more now. Like seriously i have been here for a really long time and at first everything was easy to get. At around 2008/2009 the credit reward from voting was so high that you could get 1 FO Item for 3 days voting....NOW? Now its different.Hard to get FO Items fast. What im trying to say is that if your goal is to make everyone equal, they wont be. There will still be the UBER guys ( which paid for game ) and the FO guys ( which cant afford it or just dont want to bother wasting money for a game ) That is not equality. And dont tell me it will be possible that FO can kill Uber because it wont be. For example an uber with 3pots will deffinately win vs FO with 3 pots. Its just the dmg. So yeah people keep encouraging for this change.

How many times must be explained to you and how many users must post a feedback that they won against an Uber Set user? Of course uber with 3 pots will definetely win vs FO with 3 pots. That's why the Uber is. But if the player with F.O set is enough experienced and can do pot + combo then he would win 1 vs 1. In Guild Wars the situation is different and even more exiciding than before like few players trying to kill you but while you have 10 pots per second no one could kill you not to talk about F.O users then. Your post makes no sense to me.

Now its different.Hard to get FO Items fast.

That's bull****. We have offered so many ways to earn free credits so you still complain about something. It's truth but sad truth, that's what some people is... want more and more. Vote system never gave that much credits per vote before. Last month we was in top 9 in xtremetop100 and for every single vote in 24 hours you get 200 credits. That's way much than before. Currently if you only vote for the server in all top lists you could earn 850 credits per 24 hours and that makes it around 6000 credits per week just for voting. This guarantess you Full Option Set in one week. Not to talk if you take advantage of other systems. If you play with us for month you could have equipped your all characters with full options sets for free. So please stop complaining for something that's not really true. You will get banned permanently if you spread rumours that's not true. This server has reputation for over 7 years. Have a little respect and do not complain for something that's not true. If you are player in here you can also win Uber Set in some of our events for free. We don't ask for your precious money. This server is held by donations so it will be in future if there's people to support it.

We do not "taking peoples money". They decide to donate and that's actually the only thing we offer for donation. Everything else you could earn by vote, grand reset, GM events, online hours exchange and referral system.

Make yourself the tests, caluclation or what's so ever and then come here to complain but make sure to put some serious arguments, Currently you have providen zero arguments.

 

[RAMPAGE]

I am not making this about me. I am talking about new players but its like all your text referred to me. I have played in this server for quite some time now prob about 4 -5 years back when the server was in Bulgaria and i have donated a lot of times because i support the server and it is stable and probably the server which is most fun to play in. I have an uber set already because i donated to the server. I just put forward my opinion on this topic. Why would you threaten to ban me for expressing myself? Oh and Heruvim im not scared of losing my 'good 10 pot / sec rate' because even now i dont have that much. Maybe if you knew me from before when the server was bulgarian i did back then but now its different

 

[Chouji]

I have the right to vote for slow pot rate with 63-65k hp only red pots. Muahahah >:]
But devastate does have a point and he has been playing. I know him very well enough that he was a 2008-09 player.
I have seen this sever grow. Aha when Harry aka N0VA used to play on bk named R4GE. Ahaha
And there was WATCHER ROFL. XD

 

[RESiSTANT]

I am talking about new players

Every player has his own opinion. New players could join our events and win Uber Sets too. Everyon makes his own choice to participate in event or not. If you have read all the pages with information and tests by our users you will notice that some of them already tested Uber vs F.O and some of them managed to kill Ubers because it still depends on your skills about fast pot (pot in time) and how good you can do combo.

As from what I noticed in your post you are complaining about some really different things which I will explain you again in this post.

And dont tell me it will be possible that FO can kill Uber because it wont be. For example an uber with 3pots will deffinately win vs FO with 3 pots. Its just the dmg. So yeah people keep encouraging for this change.

3pots ok, but who will manage to do combo and use those 3 pots? Only a few. Having just 3 potions makes it balance because everyone will have the same chance in a PVP and who ever is the best will win. What about if Asian or Latin player comes on your way and you have 10 pots per sec and he has 3pots per sec? Isn't it the same? He got no chance against you in this way. If both players could have the same chance for pot it is enough for the one to post faster and do combo. The fact is that if you thinking only about yourself is enough to vote for No in this poll and disagree with the chance. Why? Simply because 10pot per sec user would dominate against 3pot per sec user. If you read the above opinions by the players you might understand it even more easier.

Why would you threaten to ban me for expressing myself?

Could you please read my whole post before asking questions? I've already answered it at first place. Yes, and you will get banned permanently if you spread informations which are not true because someone would believe in your words and repeat it then more players complain for thing which doesn't really exist such as" Pink options are bugged" which is repeated by numerous players while Pink options working just fine or making wrong calculations about vote rewards, so please just keep reading below.


Expressing yourself is OK, but telling wrong calculations is way different. In your case you've said this:

At around 2008/2009 the credit reward from voting was so high that you could get 1 FO Item for 3 days voting....NOW? Now its different.Hard to get FO Items fast.

Current year is 2014 and now you can get 1 FO item in 2-3 days by only voting. In 2009 we gave 30 credits per vote and currently its 67 credits per vote while the item prices haven't changed except that S4 items came up but it's way good for the market to have some expensive item to exchange else it would be too easier to earn all items just like you want I guess. What do you mean with saying that it's hard to get items this days? Calculate your stuff carefully before posting lies about the server and read all our events done so far for Uber Sets and Weapons before saying this: " but the way i see it you are taking peoples money even more now". Will repeat this again. We do not force no one to spend money. Everything you see on the webshop is offered for free except for the Uber items and in some big events we offer those Ubers for free as reward which doesn't make this server owned by donors just like you tried to say it but in different way.

Take a moment reading all the feedback by the forumers and their opinions in every thread before posting.

Do not post offtopic anymore please. Let my post to be the latest the topics you've just created recently. I just wanted to clear the topic from wrong feedback and offtopic. If you have something to say, just post it in proper section or direct it to me via Private Message.

Chouji, we tried this before, it's always 1-2 hits and still people will complain. No way to make it possible anyway. At least we can try again. ^^


Thank you

 

[FreakOzOid]

i voted for yes because i tested it and with Dri 7% sets its really great its well ballanced when for example BM fights vs BM, but when i tried full SD set with shield even and 2 FO rings situation dont look so well because when potrate is low SD is not incerasing as fast as it should be (tested). I want to say that AG pots are not really necessary and it can be exchange for red pots for example and BKs life can be incerase for test to 800k-1mln. Thats just my opinion and maybe little suggestion.

 

[Chouji]

Chouji, we tried this before, it's always 1-2 hits and still people will complain. No way to make it possible anyway. At least we can try again. ^^


Thank you

Stay 32767, with 63-65k health and just red pots. I dont think it will be 1-2 hits. maybe atless good 10 combos? or maybe more


I am not even gonna beeg, but I tried a sever yesterday, it was with 65k stats with red pots and it totally pooped. They were complaining on how I was comboin, I was like in this sever you don't PVP like this? with combo? Just pure TS? Wtf is the point of having fun here? ts and pot? Cannot see combo? I got banned for doing combo's. So before I got banned I did Gpet + combo and the main owner of sever banned me himself. Because I gave them a little 1, 2 about freedom of speech. I guess he got butt hurt. xP

Well everyone does know where they can get the best of PVP battle, that's this sever. So even though I been naughty in this sever. I end up staying in this sever.


All I can say is thanks Venci for the sever of godz of pk. aayyy

 

[yakuza012]

At once I am on it, which is DL tank in this game did a poor even though his horse did not give 40% absorbe ... Just that the ref will work well and always dl lose to bk, and bk is facilitated affair Change to big minus, and believe that not only I think so, but a lot of other players. Each DL now bursting bk if he has Uber or not, and uses this horse has no chance of bk in exc because it would kill him without a problem
AFTER THAT YOU CHANGE DL IS VERY STRONG CHARACTER The Defi MADE VERY WEAK, ELF MORE STRENGTH THAN DL

 

[Dimer]

At once I am on it, which is DL tank in this game did a poor even though his horse did not give 40% absorbe ... Just that the ref will work well and always dl lose to bk, and bk is facilitated affair Change to big minus, and believe that not only I think so, but a lot of other players. Each DL now bursting bk if he has Uber or not, and uses this horse has no chance of bk in exc because it would kill him without a problem
AFTER THAT YOU CHANGE DL IS VERY STRONG CHARACTER The Defi MADE VERY WEAK, ELF MORE STRENGTH THAN DL

Please explain better your thoughts on the suggestion.If I am right you have experienced that the DL is a lot weaker than before and even elfs can kill him? Are you sure you pvp with every character,because a lot of the people here tested it and DL is not that weak as you describe.It depends a lot how you pilot the character there bro.Against BK it faires well,it doesn't die that easily,specially against FO,and it has a big chance to kill him if you use the tricks and not staying in one place.Of course if you don't move and the BK lands 2-3 successful combos,you will die.

 

[Andromeda]

So before I got banned I did Gpet + combo and the main owner of sever banned me himself.

could you teach me to use gpet and combo? :O
Sry for offtopic just couldn't handle it.

What happens with the Sd sets then? I still dont have it very clear. The reason why we could use them before was because of the potrate allowed us to handle not dying,seems to me now like this option won't be useful anymore. Btw,I haven't made tests in sv4, dont jump shouting at me,just expressing my thoughts.

 

[Heruvim]

could you teach me to use gpet and combo? :O
Sry for offtopic just couldn't handle it.

What happens with the Sd sets then? I still dont have it very clear. The reason why we could use them before was because of the potrate allowed us to handle not dying,seems to me now like this option won't be useful anymore. Btw,I haven't made tests in sv4, dont jump shouting at me,just expressing my thoughts.

With 3 potions per second ,using SD set your reflect animaton is still heavily reduced just like before, but of course you'll die alot faster, but you can kill your enemy with DDI7 Set just as fast,it all depends on the player.

 

[Andromeda]

So then SD stops existing according to the logic you offer me because it will be pointless if you can't outpot the damage of the opponent. If someone tested SD please let us know the results.

 

[Dimer]

So then SD stops existing according to the logic you offer me because it will be pointless if you can't outpot the damage of the opponent. If someone tested SD please let us know the results.

I have tested full SD set and 3 parts SD in a pvp with a DDI 7% opponent.Of course you die a lot faster than before,but if he is not good at combo and if you can outplay him with 3-4 successful combos landed on him,he will die.There is a difference of course,but I do not think it will be outdated to have those options.

 

[Putin]

I have tested full SD set and 3 parts SD in a pvp with a DDI 7% opponent.Of course you die a lot faster than before,but if he is not good at combo and if you can outplay him with 3-4 successful combos landed on him,he will die.There is a difference of course,but I do not think it will be outdated to have those options.

right now tested FULL SD set on s4 and it works well
i can stay alive for a long time. Fought vs Asu , he was using Full dri hyon+vic and i could own him .

so lets wait for updates

 

[Dimer]

right now tested FULL SD set on s4 and it works well
i can stay alive for a long time. Fought vs Asu , he was using Full dri hyon+vic and i could own him .

so lets wait for updates

Yes,if you're good,then no problem with the Full Sd set,I tested it today as well,had a good fight

 

[Abesta]

Hello guys,

I would like to know what is the final decision. From the poll results and comments it is clear that, server wants this system, even EU players. Some players pointed few things above and all of their questions answered.

Test Results:

SD Set - Works perfect if your opponent doesn`t have any SD Decrease sword. Even if your opponent has 1 SD Decrease sword, you can show some good performances. Don`t even think to wear Wizard Ring with SD Set. (You can also build your set too, depends on opponent; 3SD + 2DRI, 4 SD + 1 DRI, 3 SD + 3 DRI)

DRI Set (F.O) - FO vs FO - this battle is awesome, nothing to talk about it, who is better, he/she wins. F.O vs Uber, for sure Uber has more advantage because of his additional ancient options but still it doesn`t means that F.O will lose in this battle. If you are good player you could win 40% of the rounds. Even 30% is big result for you and you can act like a boss with that, coz you beat Uber 30% of the rounds (FO has 1 great advantage - since your damage is not big like uber, means you will receive lesser reflects than uber does, so it will make you stay longer than you can with uber)

DRI Set (Uber) - Uber vs FO, read above. Uber vs Uber, who is better he wins. This time you decide if you need more defense or Damage by wearing Wizard ring or F.O(UBER).

DLs with FO set swell/non-swell - Still everything depends on how you are fighting but overally till today no FO DL could beat me while I am using Uber. But when I use FO, it makes battle lasts longs but still I could beat DL. When DL with FO gets swell from BK, still fight could last longer but this time DL could beat BKs. Anyways, not every BKs are strong. So you still can beat many BKs.

DLs with Uber Set swell/non-swell - Yeah this time DL could beat BK more. I can even say 50/50%, at least 35-40% of rounds. It is good results for DL. DL with swell against BK, this time BK has very little chance to beat DLs.

DLs are like in current server 3. In server 3 they still cant beat BKs without swell, so many of them needs swell. Anyways BK is best character so it is normal if BKs win more against other chars


Overall, this systems makes pvp more enjoyable. Pvp's doesn`t lasts forever. We don`t need to off any parts of set bla bla. Specially we wants this system because of some packet sending hacks which makes players has almost 20 pots per sec and it is making them unbeatable.

 

[NaturalS]

Hello guys,

I would like to know what is the final decision. From the poll results and comments it is clear that, server wants this system, even EU players. Some players pointed few things above and all of their questions answered.

Test Results:

SD Set - Works perfect if your opponent doesn`t have any SD Decrease sword. Even if your opponent has 1 SD Decrease sword, you can show some good performances. Don`t even think to wear Wizard Ring with SD Set. (You can also build your set too, depends on opponent; 3SD + 2DRI, 4 SD + 1 DRI, 3 SD + 3 DRI)

DRI Set (F.O) - FO vs FO - this battle is awesome, nothing to talk about it, who is better, he/she wins. F.O vs Uber, for sure Uber has more advantage because of his additional ancient options but still it doesn`t means that F.O will lose in this battle. If you are good player you could win 50% of the rounds. Even 40% is big result for you and you can act like a boss with that, coz you beat Uber 40% of the rounds (FO has 1 great advantage - since your damage is not big like uber, means you will receive lesser reflects than uber does, so it will make you stay longer than you can with uber)

DRI Set (Uber) - Uber vs FO, read above. Uber vs Uber, who is better he wins. This time you decide if you need more defense or Damage by wearing Wizard ring or F.O(UBER).

DLs with FO set swell/non-swell - Still everything depends on how you are fighting but overally till today no FO DL could beat me while I am using Uber. But when I use FO, it makes battle lasts longs but still I could beat DL. When DL with FO gets swell from BK, still fight could last longer but this time DL could beat BKs. Anyways, not every BKs are strong. So you still can beat many BKs.

DLs with Uber Set swell/non-swell - Yeah this time DL could beat BK more. I can even say 50/50%, at least 35-40% of rounds. It is good results for DL. DL with swell against BK, this time BK has very little chance to beat DLs.

DLs are like in current server 3. In server 3 they still cant beat BKs without swell, so many of them needs swell. Anyways BK is best character so it is normal if BKs win more against other chars


Overall, this systems makes pvp more enjoyable. Pvp's doesn`t lasts forever. We don`t need to off any parts of set bla bla. Specially we wants this system because of some packet sending hacks which makes players has almost 20 pots per sec and it is making them unbeatable.

The veterans says all. Im so excited to approve this suggestion.

as my point of view the people will encourage to donate an uber to get an advantage in game since they know that we have equal pot rate on this server. if they do that. everything single thing on this server will enhance through your donation. and more surprises will do. "just hallucinating the future" ye:

I've seen this suggestion before I guess it was Alex suggestion btw its not a important.
Im looking forward to approve this suggestion. hope this is a big impact in our InfinityMU World.

 

[FreakOzOid]

ye ye everythings great but i have tested full SD set i mean 6 SD parts with shiled and with opponent who weared 2 sd dec swords i felt like i am playing in full DRI set it cant be like this for sure. This potrate is too low to use SD sets because the SD Inecerase is also low then. Dont get me wrong i had a big pleasure to play Dri vs Dri but still if this Low potrate will be add to server 3 i hope our admins gonna think about solving that problem with SD sets;].
P.S My solution is remove complex potions for Red + add HP to BK after swell
Yo gonna ask "why the hell he want to add HP for BK" My answer is when uber will fight vs uber it s gonna be 1 combo dead :] not even chance to defense

 

[Memorise.]

ye ye everythings great but i have tested full sd set i mean 6 sd parts with shiled and with opponent who weared 2 sd dec swords i felt like i am playing in full dri set it cant be like this for sure. This potrate is too low to use sd sets because the sd inecerase is also low then. Dont get me wrong i had a big pleasure to play dri vs dri but still if this low potrate will be add to server 3 i hope our admins gonna think about solving that problem with sd sets;].
P.s my solution is remove complex potions for red + add hp to bk after swell
yo gonna ask "why the hell he want to add hp for bk" my answer is when uber will fight vs uber it s gonna be 1 combo dead :] not even chance to defense

total right