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Hello guys,

Today I want to create an open discussion about future EMs whose will be TGM or EMs whose already be TGM. I disagree with fact that EMs who works hard will be TGM in the future. Yes some can be but some can`t. EMs are Hosting Events, so which EM is active and hosts much Events he/she will be TGM/GM? So it means main and 75% duty of GM is Hosting events? What about knowledge about hacks, hackers? For to have that knowledge, you must be someone experienced in PvP. So, guys whose never reported someone due usage of SH or even AP will be TGM/GM in the future? I disagree with this idea. Let them do their EM jobs and Host Events and if they report some hackers(means they have experience to detect if opponent using hack or not) and that report successfully accepted then they can took attention of higher ranks and they can have a chance. If being TGM this easy then it will be hard to deny some TGM Applications in the future.

I don`t know guys. Maybe I am old minded and not modern Infinity player, that's why I have this mind but I think my point is correct. I know well that, we all are humans and we all can learn. Before being supporter was even harder lol :) 0 experienced player can learn something during his TGM period too, but is it needed? Wouldn`t it be cool if staff team recruits some experienced players to the team? And those EMs can have a chance only when they provide that they have enough experience in this job. Hosting Events is 5-10% of being GM, what about knowledge, da main reason?

I am an ex GM. Why I been accepted to the team? Coz I had enough friends to give me a Yes? Not really. I been Supporter, I gave some professional opinions in reports and took attention of higher ranks. I reported some players and those reports got success. That's what you have to do for to show your abilities to the community. Hosting events? I never hosted any events till I been GM, but hell, you can see that I hosted enough events, tournaments bla bla. It is easy part.

My point is, it would be good if Staffs recruits some experienced EMs instead of recruiting EMs whose spending much times on the game. Hope my point is clear for everybody. Now I want to see community's and Staff Team's opinion about it. Hope opinions will be honest just like my thread is.
 
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What about asking Venci to let the EMs see the Reports section to allow them to get experienced in such things ?
 

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totaly agree with this post , that they do some events doesnt make them awesome gms or tgms
every1 can make events its not that big of deal
and tbh those 2 ems that became tgms , they got no experience in pvp/hacks and etc
never seen any thread or post of them talking about hacks and if yes , i bet that post is copied from the other gm who posted before him
saying same sh*t with no point.

all i wanna say here , gm team need experienced people with "full options" knowledge about hacks,scams,bta,etc..

please take this in serious way , this server deserves the best
 

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What about asking Venci to let the EMs see the Reports section to allow them to get experienced in such things ?
It would be good but because of some security reasons Venci disabled it. If he enables that section to EMs there will be many opinions and it will be annoying. Some of those opinions will not be good and it will mix brain of all and specially reporter's. What if Venci enable seeing Report section for EMs which Higher ranks planning to recruit him/her to the TGM/GM Team? It will be a little training for that guy, isn`t?

Btw, hope EMs will not get offended. I am thinking about them and about community. If EMs whose haven`t got enough experience become TGM and writes his/hers opinions, community will think different about them and will have fun with them. That what you guys need, absolutely not.
 

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What about asking Venci to let the EMs see the Reports section to allow them to get experienced in such things ?
Fault is correct.u say that ems dont have knowledge aabout hackers and reports.if they could see report section they can have more knowledge and get closer to T-GM.
 

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Seeing report section mostly gives experience about How system goes. 'When we are closing threads', 'when we are saying not enough proof' such things. Yeah they need it as well. But it is second lesson. How can one player get experience about mu by watching report videos and photos? You must be inside of actions for to have experience. When you attack to someone you must know how many damages normal player doing in a row, bla bla. Shortly, for to have experience, you must pvp with someone. Those watchiny videos or photos will not give good experience. It is not good way to learn about mu, but the best way to learn about system, agree with that :)
 

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hello enver,as always im waiting clear things from you,and now too,you're right,i dont understands that Staff Team Member or just usual member of our community rushing for possitions/tags/power. for me better is if i will wait,i will have more knowledge,i will be more famous,i will be bla bal :D , i been supporter too,have many reports , know alomost all about our community/staff team/about our newest members.but... i'm waiting for the best time,when my other job will needed for community...
i won't judge any person.
thank you Enver ;))))
 
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totaly agree with this post , that they do some events doesnt make them awesome gms or tgms
every1 can make events its not that big of deal
and tbh those 2 ems that became tgms , they got no experience in pvp/hacks and etc
never seen any thread or post of them talking about hacks and if yes , i bet that post is copied from the other gm who posted before him
saying same sh*t with no point.

all i wanna say here , gm team need experienced people with "full options" knowledge about hacks,scams,bta,etc..

please take this in serious way , this server deserves the best
Hello Arz,

I'm totally agree with you that GMs team needs an experienced players , but its as you said Arz "GM Team" we still TGMs and as far as i know Test Game Master period has been made to test my willingness to learn , not to test how pro am i or how huge is my experience . The problem is not when i mistake , everyone mistakes and making mistakes is the best way to learn .But the real problem is when you repeat the same mistake . We got a Staff Members and Former Staff Members wrote that in their applications they have no experience about being GMs ,But by the time they learnt a huge experience and became an example of the best Staff Members who made this community's history. C'mon Arz don't be so harsh , By saying that "those who make some events doesn't make them qualified for being TGMs" you are disappointing the EMs who will be doing their best in their job to be qualified to get a higher rank. You and Abesta are an example of the best Staff Members who made this server's history by your smartness and kindness so it would be better if you share your experiences to them and let them learn from you what makes them qualified for this job and decreases their mistakes .

Thank you !
 

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I can agree to everything you said, since they're correct.
I can also disagree to everything you said, since they're also wrong.

Today I want to create an open discussion about future EMs whose will be TGM or EMs whose already be TGM. I disagree with fact that EMs who works hard will be TGM in the future. Yes some can be but some can`t. EMs are Hosting Events, so which EM is active and hosts much Events he/she will be TGM/GM? So it means main and 75% duty of GM is Hosting events? What about knowledge about hacks, hackers? For to have that knowledge, you must be someone experienced in PvP. So, guys whose never reported someone due usage of SH or even AP will be TGM/GM in the future? I disagree with this idea. Let them do their EM jobs and Host Events and if they report some hackers(means they have experience to detect if opponent using hack or not) and that report successfully accepted then they can took attention of higher ranks and they can have a chance. If being TGM this easy then it will be hard to deny some TGM Applications in the future.
Agreed, but this is only your own point of view and it seems that you're concerned only for the one side of the coin, what about the other?

A hard working EM, who does a lot yet moderately and correctly his events, and also is actively reporting possible cheaters to the authorised personel who's taking care of those cases (GM Team), seems like a promising young man/girl who's willing to help the community, also don't think that their personalities aren't being tested as EMs, someone's personality and wether or not he/she's reliable can easily be determind from the results they make while being an EM, a GM's work doesn't revolve around making events only Indeed, but why do you point out that "So if an EM makes a lot of events he/she becomes TGM/GM?" did you ever thought that's the whole purpose of that usergroup, they can't really ban someone, so all they can do is Events while the GMs are browsing the report section which you (the community) keep active daily.

And no, Applications will be denied as easily as they used to, nothing will change, and nobody said that every EM will become a TGM/GM at some point, if people apply for that position thinking like this, then they better reconsider before they begin writing their Application.

I don`t know guys. Maybe I am old minded and not modern Infinity player, that's why I have this mind but I think my point is correct. I know well that, we all are humans and we all can learn. Before being supporter was even harder lol :) 0 experienced player can learn something during his TGM period too, but is it needed? Wouldn`t it be cool if staff team recruits some experienced players to the team? And those EMs can have a chance only when they provide that they have enough experience in this job. Hosting Events is 5-10% of being GM, what about knowledge, da main reason?
My point is, it would be good if Staffs recruits some experienced EMs instead of recruiting EMs whose spending much times on the game. Hope my point is clear for everybody. Now I want to see community's and Staff Team's opinion about it. Hope opinions will be honest just like my thread is.
I couldn't agree more with you, but some of what i wrote above are answering what you say here, but you also forget, experience isn't everything, what's concerning the staff the most is "He is experienced, he could do it, but is he TRUSTWORTHY?" granting someone access to ban people is a big deal, how sure can you be that this person won't take advantage of it? How can you be sure that he won't abuse it and ban people that he has issues with, or to the very least, keep cornering them waiting for them to do a single mistake, even a minor insult, just to take care of him because he dislikes him. You have also witnessed reports being handled from the offender's friend who happened to be a GM, trying to protect his friends, have you? Well we can't have that here sry.

As i wrote to the first paragraph, through being an EM, they can determind wether or not someone is Trustworthy and if they can Cooperate as a team with the others, how much they are willing to help and learn without acting all mighty and "I am 100% pro GM dw i got it" attitudes. It's really essential to make sure of these things.

I am an ex GM. Why I been accepted to the team? Coz I had enough friends to give me a Yes? Not really. I been Supporter, I gave some professional opinions in reports and took attention of higher ranks. I reported some players and those reports got success. That's what you have to do for to show your abilities to the community. Hosting events? I never hosted any events till I been GM, but hell, you can see that I hosted enough events, tournaments bla bla. It is easy part.
I also agree with what you say here, and thank god you didn't claim you came in the team as a complete GM fully experienced, but you also forgot to mention that after you joined the team, there were still a lot of stuff that you had to learn.
 

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Hello Nick,

Madhater said:
Agreed, but this is only your own point of view and it seems that you're concerned only for the one side of the coin, what about the other?

A hard working EM, who does a lot yet moderately and correctly his events, and also is actively reporting possible cheaters to the authorised personel who's taking care of those cases (GM Team), seems like a promising young man/girl who's willing to help the community, also don't think that their personalities aren't being tested as EMs, someone's personality and wether or not he/she's reliable can easily be determind from the results they make while being an EM, a GM's work doesn't revolve around making events only Indeed, but why do you point out that "So if an EM makes a lot of events he/she becomes TGM/GM?" did you ever thought that's the whole purpose of that usergroup, they can't really ban someone, so all they can do is Events while the GMs are browsing the report section which you (the community) keep active daily.
I bet you didn`t even understand the quote part which you pasted. I know well that EMs job is hosting Events. Who doesn`t know it? I am talking about why some EMs becoming TGM/GM if they only have 1 ability for now (Hosting events)? Since TGM/GM is not about Hosting events, if you have only this ability, you can`t be TGM/GM right? So in this quote you went far away from the main point, never mind.

Madhater said:
I couldn't agree more with you, but some of what i wrote above are answering what you say here, but you also forget, experience isn't everything, what's concerning the staff the most is "He is experienced, he could do it, but is he TRUSTWORTHY?"
I just forgot to add Trustworthy. But wait, my thread is not talking about normal infinitians whose can be TGM/GM in the future. My thread is talking about EMs whose will be TGM in the future. Of course if you accepted to the EM team, means Staff Team trusts to you. And if you proved yourself as EM and showed that you are really trustworthy higher ranks planning to recruit you. EMs have GM commands in game. Commands which are totally enough to fk game. You know it. Banning few players whose you hate is easy to recovery but if you abuse your commands in game, your 65k stated character in game, it will not be that easy to recovery. Since our EMs not doing this, means I don`t need to add trustworthy in here. They all already trusted and trustworthy and that's why they are in.

But this thread all about this: An EM who has only Event Hosting ability and Trusted not enough to become TGM. As Arz pointed about, you must have all options which TGM needs. All options with high lvl, not really but you must have those options at least at low level. Detecting Hacks, Trustworthy, Mature, Friendly, Events bla ba. It all must have in that guy.

Nick, you think I just sit at toilet and then came an idea and created this thread? :) Not really :) I have enough facts and proofs to say that EMs who can Host only Events when become to TGM, they can`t show themselves as someone suitable for TGM job. 50% of the guys who thanked my thread knows well which proofs I am talking about. Sadly Nick, you are not active at all specially at Report section, that's why you can`t fully get my real point and it is normal thing.


So you guys, please think well what I am writing and then write your opinions. It is not about making poemys here. I could write too many things in my thread but I would be boring to read. So I made it shortly. You guys just get the main point. Let me remind the point once again with short sentences. "Being hardworking EM doesn`t means that you can be TGM. EM and TGM/GM are two different jobs. EMs are for only Hosting Events which 5-10% of TGM duty. So are you guys agree with this point. If agree, tell me why? If disagree, tell me why?


P.S: I already pointed in my thread too, it is not about all EMs. Some EMs could be eligible to be TGM. But most of them, not. Then we have to find another way to promote them to da TGM job. Not just because they can host many events and they are active in game.



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Hello Arz,

I'm totally agree with you that GMs team needs an experienced players , but its as you said Arz "GM Team" we still TGMs and as far as i know Test Game Master period has been made to test my willingness to learn , not to test how pro am i or how huge is my experience . The problem is not when i mistake , everyone mistakes and making mistakes is the best way to learn .But the real problem is when you repeat the same mistake . We got a Staff Members and Former Staff Members wrote that in their applications they have no experience about being GMs ,But by the time they learnt a huge experience and became an example of the best Staff Members who made this community's history. C'mon Arz don't be so harsh , By saying that "those who make some events doesn't make them qualified for being TGMs" you are disappointing the EMs who will be doing their best in their job to be qualified to get a higher rank. You and Abesta are an example of the best Staff Members who made this server's history by your smartness and kindness so it would be better if you share your experiences to them and let them learn from you what makes them qualified for this job and decreases their mistakes .

Thank you !
If we look from this part, everybody deserves to be TGM. TGM Period is not for learn about gameplay, hacks bla bla. It is about to learn system, that's it. It is about to prove yourself that you are really someone trusted and someone Staff Team needs. I shared my experiences with many infinitians. Sometimes when I enter to the forum, I see PMs from guys whose wants to have my advice. It is good think and I am trying to spend my time to answer them. But you guys please get what real point of TGM period is.
 
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Indeed enver in some points you are right, but in this time it's almost not possible to find such experienced game masters as it was before that every day one made an application. Staff team needs to be satisfied with what they have. There's actually more of such GMs currently that they hack knownledge is about to beat the ice, but what to do. And it will get worse. Unless Titan will start to teach them like schoolboys how to an*lyze the hacks, because he's one of the best in it and it would help I bet.
 

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Abesta and dear friends. Let me say something with simple words about this Event Master will be TGM:

I am watching every Event Masters activity, and they are not only hosting events. They are helping/answering ingame, BTA, so i can tell that they are making almost everything what a GM makes ingame (well sure they are not focused that much to catch rule breakers too but sometimes they do coz of their big ingame activity and i see many reports of them)
If i see that this guy (EM) is working hard, kind person, and cooperating with GMs alot, asking from me in different cases what he need to to, or what is the answer for this question, there i see he is willing to help.
I didnt saw any Staff Replies in the short past about EMs, and i see they are doing a good job ingame. Every day i check their igname logs at HGM Panel, in that way they are not abusing powers. If anybody is unpleased with their services, can feel free to contact me and i teach how to do next time.

So this was about EMs current work ingame. Now about their activity as TGMs in Hack reports:
-clearly visible that some of them are giving sometimes wrong opinions, sometimes not see if its hack or if its AP or not. Thats why i am here and the other Experienced Game Masters to correct this, and by our teach, they will learn. Thats why when im @nalizing a video hack Report, i point the time (0:15 or 1:14) where i see mistake/strange movements so they can learn from it and will focus theese movements. Many of us in this way learnt + with the ingame experience.

By choosing them Test Game Masters i want to test them and see how they are working with a harder rank, because i see they reached that trust from me to be tested. In their test period they cannot ruin anything, i correct of they make mistakes and everything is going smooth.
I saw when Fault banned yesterday a guy who was provoked then the reporter got insulted, yes it was a wrong ban. But then u saw this, ASAP you jumped with Arz and wrote the " next time ask the higher rank etc" then u made this thread.
I tell you and everybody thay they are under control and nobody has to be affraid coz nothing negative wont happen, and not every EM will join the TGM's only which i see it worths a try and i will make professionists from them. For Newly promoted TGM's i assume my full responsibility, everbody can learn if they want and someone is teaching them. So dont worry, all is ok.
 

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I agree with you Titty. Btw, I didn't attack Fault in bad way after that ban. You guys can check chatbox history. I wrote that, "I think it is provoke". The most polite way :) But I didnt create this thread just because of that mistake. Even I did such mistake as GM rank, but he did it as TGM not a big deal. But I saw that, he was rushing to close thread without waitig higher ranks opinions, he was Ban someone for AP but as far as I know TGMs doesn't rights to ban someone from Hack reports section. Plus he already wrote his opinion, so other Gm had to ban. At least it is the best way to respect your co-mates. But this thread is not only about Fault. If it was, I should simply create Report Staff thread insread opening General Mu Discussion.

I don't want Fault or some other future TGMs who promoted from EM, do such mistakes and decreases his own reputation and then Staff Team's too. That's why I think there must be some other ways to test some EMs before promoting them to TGM job. They are starring to train as TGM, so it is hard for them. Maybe let EMs see Report Section? Anyways I said in my previous replys that, Game features cant be learned by forum. They must be active in pvps.
 

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I agree with you Titty. Btw, I didn't attack Fault in bad way after that ban. You guys can check chatbox history. I wrote that, "I think it is provoke". The most polite way :) But I didnt create this thread just because of that mistake. Even I did such mistake as GM rank, but he did it as TGM not a big deal. But I saw that, he was rushing to close thread without waitig higher ranks opinions, he was Ban someone for AP but as far as I know TGMs doesn't rights to ban someone from Hack reports section. Plus he already wrote his opinion, so other Gm had to ban. At least it is the best way to respect your co-mates. But this thread is not only about Fault. If it was, I should simply create Report Staff thread insread opening General Mu Discussion.

I don't want Fault or some other future TGMs who promoted from EM, do such mistakes and decreases his own reputation and then Staff Team's too. That's why I think there must be some other ways to test some EMs before promoting them to TGM job. They are starring to train as TGM, so it is hard for them. Maybe let EMs see Report Section? Anyways I said in my previous replys that, Game features cant be learned by forum. They must be active in pvps.
Do you understand what you just did bro, Titan said the exact same thing, nothing differnt, as i did, yet you somehow understood better what he wanted to say and you went with it, while you kind of attacked me, i guess my english are bad.... oh well.... i give up.

I had high respect for you since out of all the GMs so far, you were one of the few i had to scold the LEAST.
 

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It is hard to discuss and come common decision with you guys. No one here wants to compare old InfinityMU with newer one. Or maybe afraid to compare. Old Staff Teams and New Staff Teams. I don`t tell new Staff Team is bad. Titan is the best GM/HGM of all times. Who cares if he is HGM of new generation Staff Team? He is still the best, but not all Team about Titan. Guys think well. Why years ago Game Master was something special and something unbelievable ? Because it was hard to become one. Because almost all representatives of GM Team was Pro. But now? Being GM is easier than being Supporter on that times. You needed to have 20 + Hack Reports plus some other qualities for to be Supporter. But now? No hax report, no experience and yeah you are TGM/GM. When someone ask to you, how will you get that experience. A guy simply saying that "I will learn from Report section". How? Game is something different than videos. EM becoming TGM, same like MOD becoming TGM. How can one MOD become TGM? If he she doesn`t have any experience about Game Play? Hell yeah, he is polite, good but has no experience. Honesto aka EAGER aka Billy became TGM/GM from MOD job. But he was suitable for that job. Because Honesto was good at Pvp and he had enough experience about pvp. He did many reports. But nowadays what is happening? You are not reporting someone, not doing anything. Just answer few questions in forum, and be a bit known then you are EM and then you are TGM. How funny? If you are answering problems in forum, you must be maximum a Moderator. Coz your home is Forum. But we need Game Masters - Game experienced Player. EM - Experienced with Events but does it means that you have experience for to detect cheaters?

You guys just don`t want to think like me. You are just like this - EM, can host events, friendly, helping BTAs, answering few questions in game - can become GM, why not? But where is the most needed ability, hack detecting? That guy will learn about game in 1-2 weeks of Test period? How?

Zulu you are old player too, you must get what I mean. Compare old and new generation and think what is the problem? I already told what is the problem. Why there's no TGM application? Because they don`t need to be Staff Member. It is not something special anymore. And nowadays applications coming from players, whose wants to rush. I am playing InfinityMU from end of 2008s and I became TGM in 2013 lol :) Coz I never felt myself ready for to be one of those special guys. They had enough good experience, for to be one of them I had to be experienced at least like them. That's how system worked before. But now? Join to InfinityMU, after 2-3 months you are in :) Who cares if you have experience? You are friendly, have few friends to give YES to you, don`t worry you are in.

I don`t know what to write for to make myself clear to you guys. You still think that it is the best way, but not. I wrote what was the best system and players from old generation can simply agree with me if they ever try to compare. Now others will come that, you are calling Staff Team unexperienced and etc. I am not. I just want to see players have interest for that job again. And for that, it must be harder to become TGM, easy just like this.
 
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I can compare all you want since i've been an admin for Infinity for 6-7 years, ever since it launched, and you won't like the results.

Don't make me really go "To the old days" cause if i start comparing it will sound really bad, cause if you mean the days when i was innactive and all gms were giving FO items uncontrollably out on their events (5 events each of them * 7 gms = 35 FO's daily) untill i put a stop to it and they started hating on me because i "Limited" their freedom of doing literally what ever they wanted without care of anyone, then you're terribly mistaken that those were good days.

There were good and bad times, The Staff never was "Perfect", there were always flaws and those who favorite their friends, or even worse, those who LEAK INFORMATION, even when you were in the team, situations like that occured, not that rarely even, are you sure you want me to compare? Hm?

I personally find the current staff team really good and balanced, i was never a fan of more than 5 GM team to be honest, too many to control and keep in the right path, and if you reconsider my bad health problems back then, my laptop that kept crashing, and me being busy with my work, i was already spending way more time than i should on here just to make this community a better place for everyone.

Old Generation: They were more free, they were doing what they want, kept fighting with each other, driving me mad trying to find a solution for everyone to be happy, as result i had to be scolding y'all in daily basis, information leaking, favoritism, and what not, but this could not keep going, i put a stop to it, as result, i was hated because i took their freedom of doing as they wish away.

New Generation: They're good, and COOPERATIVE most of all, they work as a TEAM, they joke TOGETHER, they NEVER FIGHT OR ARGUE, and they DISCUSS **** TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER, unlike the "OLD GENERATION", and most of all Titan is keeping my Ideologies alive and walking by them, he's leading the team just as good as i would have, they ask him questions if they don't know what to do, just as they still ask me, Titan, Sm0ky, even RESiSTANT is coming to me for ideas some times, since we're good friends and he's consulting me.

Anyway, back INTOPIC, Just as I and Titan both said, the EMs have the qualities of becoming GMs, as both I and Titan pointed out, they are interested into learning, you are pretty damn well aware of the "Staff Conversation", they do ask a lot of questions there, and they also pay attention to how Titan and the others are handling the hack, harrasment or what ever other report someone might make, and they're learning.

The main point of this thread was you trying to point out that EMs have no Experience other than making events in order to become proper GMs, and so, for that reason, both me and Titan contradicted this thread, with ways that the EMs are useful and learning the job of a GMs, wether or not they will get that promotion though, is up to the "Higher ups", none of your business or what so ever, since you keep trying to deny the "FACTS" that both me and Titan provided about wether or not the EMs are suitable for GMs, is entirely a mistery to me.

Discussion ends here with undoubtable Facts given by both me and Titan, and if you don't trust the word of someone who has been an Admin in here for 6 to 7 years and always have been respected for his opinions and actions regardless of being a douchebag some times as an Administrator oughts to be for obvious and professional reasons, then idk what's up with it.


You know i love you.
 
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I agree with you Titty. Btw, I didn't attack Fault in bad way after that ban. You guys can check chatbox history. I wrote that, "I think it is provoke". The most polite way :) But I didnt create this thread just because of that mistake. Even I did such mistake as GM rank, but he did it as TGM not a big deal. But I saw that, he was rushing to close thread without waitig higher ranks opinions, he was Ban someone for AP but as far as I know TGMs doesn't rights to ban someone from Hack reports section. Plus he already wrote his opinion, so other Gm had to ban. At least it is the best way to respect your co-mates. But this thread is not only about Fault. If it was, I should simply create Report Staff thread insread opening General Mu Discussion.

I don't want Fault or some other future TGMs who promoted from EM, do such mistakes and decreases his own reputation and then Staff Team's too. That's why I think there must be some other ways to test some EMs before promoting them to TGM job. They are starring to train as TGM, so it is hard for them. Maybe let EMs see Report Section? Anyways I said in my previous replys that, Game features cant be learned by forum. They must be active in pvps.

Let me clarify you somethig Abesta, When i rushed to close a thread in the reports section , i have been warned and got -1 point in my test period . And about the hack report i have banned the account by a request from Titan :) You know Titan before me Abesta and as you said he os the best HGM of all times and he will never let such mistakes go and will never let anyone take the staff team reputation down..
 

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Well, anyways, it was my mistake to create this thread. It is not to me tell what to do. Since I am almost not playing in game and that's why I must not care at all. But I wrote what I saw that, EM doesn`t suits with GM job at all. Well just close this thread guys, it is not to me to voice something up. I played here, I did what I have to do and nowadays I am 1 of the most respected player here and I am proud that I did it. But sometimes you guys needs to listen infinitians ideas about such things. I don`t need to give any example to anybody. Coz you all know well that, InfinityMU was more popular, more active and more dynamic before, than today. And ask yourselves, WHY?

Close the thread please.
 

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Well, anyways, it was my mistake to create this thread. It is not to me tell what to do. Since I am almost not playing in game and that's why I must not care at all. But I wrote what I saw that, EM doesn`t suits with GM job at all. Well just close this thread guys, it is not to me to voice something up. I played here, I did what I have to do and nowadays I am 1 of the most respected player here and I am proud that I did it. But sometimes you guys needs to listen infinitians ideas about such things. I don`t need to give any example to anybody. Coz you all know well that, InfinityMU was more popular, more active and more dynamic before, than today. And ask yourselves, WHY?

Close the thread please.
You need to realise that this is also a season 3 episode 1 server, people get tired of this season, they want new things, and let's face it MU isn't really all that popular anymore, everyone's going in ArcheAge, Destiny, Guild Wars 2 and other high spec games, of course you can't expect an eleven-twelve years old game to be as popular as it used to be, it's like asking the impossible, i see where you come from though, but sadly we can't have 1500 players online like the old times bro, it's just this kind of game, only the true lovers of the old good s3e1 MU Online are going to come here.
 

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Hello,

For some post I've read here, I agree on Abesta , EM's should have knowledge on Hack report but how? It is very simple you don't need to see report section you need to do the actual work in game play PvP and watch those awesome movements that you think it's not normal then report it. If hack report section is visible to EM's they will gain knowledge? Ofc. but not as much when you experienced it game, cause In-game and watching videos is a big difference. Like on some report a promoted EM to TGM read my report thread and I was surprise on his reply ^^, as I see EM's visit in game host event's then off, assist BTA then off ^^, or I don't know if they are using their character to catch hacker buts like what I've read there is no single report of hacks from them ? LMAO.... + staff got advantage to catch hacker cause they are allowed to use Edited Stats to catch hackers but still no report from them ? I thought GM team needs experienced player to be a GM.
 
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