Discussion Is really this guy a good gm ?

[.KinG.!?]

Hello everyone and everybody

I caught this guy in discord, and he was so proud that he IS part of our staff team as Game máster
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Everyone knows shadows got a lot of privileges

I find that very weird no one can Talk to him in discord.

because will get a lof of insult from this guy

Before u did here in us chatbox

Then how can someone ask for help ?

This is Guy really IS US Game máster ? This kind of staff?

We should have a staff which really help everyone

We can see this guy never Will change.

Joking or not that are not correct words of a staff member
This guys doesnt respect the player

Thanks, im just asking here this is not a report


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[Pain]

Hello everyone and everybody

I caught this guy in discord, and he was so proud that he IS part of our staff team as Game máster
Picture : https://ibb.co/n11q7GK

Everyone knows shadows got a lot of privileges

I find that very weird no one can Talk to him in discord.

because will get a lof of insult from this guy

Before u did here in us chatbox

Then how can someone ask for help ?

This is Guy really IS US Game máster ? This kind of staff?

We should have a staff which really help everyone

We can see this guy never Will change.

Joking or not that are not correct words of a staff member
This guys doesnt respect the player

Thanks, im just asking here this is not a report

What unprofessionalism, lack of respect, and arrogance of this GM, he should not belong to the staff, and it is not the first time that he insults those of us who only seek to enjoy the game.

 

[WoRMeR]

Well everyone know if you talk with shadows he wont talk with some respect no matter if is here, discord or in game.

But we should have a game master which respect every player. Be careful with this


Example: Im no the best friend of toby but we can talk with some respect always

 

[ZEAN]

Personally I was in the shadow clan as a batle master and I consider that he is a very arrogant guy you can't tell him anything because he takes everything badly and everything is to respond with bad words also after he was not in his clan he started with child childish childish attitudes killing me why he didn't return to his clan I say that he was a member of his clan then how will his attitudes be with the rest of the shadow members you think you are a god in this game but more than one we have put you to respect with any member of the staff I have had problems I respect the rules but I consider that they should realize the type of collaborations they have I also consider that for the age you have you would see that you should think more and not take childlike attitudes and behave like what you are an exemplary staff member.

 

[Nodaway]

Shadow selling scripts for real money!? Really!? This help at the server!? Or just at him alone!? He are using the game for his personal things!? Wow really nice......... jua jua jua jua
Really at example of the GM must be jajajajajajajaja

 

[.KinG.!?]

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[MrShadoOow]

If I shared the full chat btw me and u suppose it was btw friends and have privacy u will leave the server but I won't do this so I will repeat my advice to u again ''GROW UP''

 

[Bjorn]

I've known him for years, since day one he was willing to help. Even before becoming GM, and he is willing to assist everyone that ask for help any time. You can't even imagine how much he has helped. So, I don't know what are you talking about, or what insults are you referring too. If you are referring to that "celebration". Well, that's kind of understandable, don't you think? The staff is working harder, to clean our beloved game from cheater. And that's the interesting point here: why aren't you celebrating? The game is becoming cleaner and cleaner. Maybe, you aren't happy because your pockets aren't clean either? That made me think about it. Who knows right? Oh, and a piece of advice: if you guys want to be respected, you have to become respectful people. Think about that.

 

[SuperStell]

"When you try to make jokes or disrespect someone and yell at us make you feel you are a big man?"

I've known him for years, since day one he was willing to help. Even before becoming GM, and he is willing to assist everyone that ask for help any time. You can't even imagine how much he has helped. So, I don't know what are you talking about, or what insults are you referring too. If you are referring to that "celebration". Well, that's kind of understandable, don't you think? The staff is working harder, to clean our beloved game from cheater. And that's the interesting point here: why aren't you celebrating? The game is becoming cleaner and cleaner. Maybe, you aren't happy because your pockets aren't clean either? That made me think about it. Who knows right? Oh, and a piece of advice: if you guys want to be respected, you have to become respectful people. Think about that.

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[BeN]

1 Scripts are not part of the game , so my opinion is that it doesnt matter if he sells them, or give them for free
2 I don`t rly understand how so many players have problems with him, i meet shadoow few years ago , we didnt play in same guild , just pk together , and we also played against eachother because we had different friends , and still i didnt pay attention to his attitude after a while we started to play together, and im sure he didnt insult me at any point.
everyone has a special way of talking, his more aggresive, but if you go over that , his a nice guy

 

[Tobλ]

I will re-open this thread, as it was not closed by a Moderator but etch this on your skulls: slipping into flaming, insulting territory or bullying will result in an immediate ban, and there will be a higher possibility of custom ban periods set, depending on the severity of your actions, because I can feel for some of you it is personal with Shadooow and that is not professional or correct. If you truly feel he is doing wrong, report him in the Staff Reports section with your reasons and, of course, genuine, full, and latest proofs. I am sure some of you will say that's pointless because it will never be successful. Well, that all depends on what you provide in your staff report. If you choose to yell like an animal and accuse a staff member of things while you provide no proof and only empty words of hate. No wonder your reports were never successful.

I have done several staff reports myself in the past, and many of them were successful because I fought and used the means accessible to me. I had the strong evidence needed, and I kept my head cool during the process. Nobody will take emotional, unstable people seriously. Also, nobody will take ShoutBox warriors seriously either since it's meant for small talk. Do not talk crap in the pub, take the necessary actions to achieve your goal.

So, since this thread is for discussion only, use this chance like civilized people and discuss things that bother you. Come up with solutions, maybe forgive, and move on. That is all up to you. We are supposed to be a community, so act like it (pointing at unnamed trolls that are here solely for the dramas and nothing else).

I have my personal opinion on this topic. I think @.KinG.!? created this thread only because his friends from his guild got caught by Shadooow. Without their bans, this topic would have never existed. People from your guild will, of course, come to support you and join in to bash on the person who helped to ban your kind. Why haven't you ever defended banned cheaters that you don't know? I know your specific group and you will defend friends no matter what they do, hell even if they assassinated a country's president.

I heard these screenshots are not shown in full, and so the context may be misunderstood, let's wait for @MrShadoOow to clear this up.

Regarding selling scripts, I know about it for a few months already and it has been approved by RESiSTANT. It is not items related, it is a service provided by an individual that knows his craft. Once again, it can be cleared by @MrShadoOow. This kind of help is not in his Game Master job description, improving at PVP is entirely your responsibility. He is not obligated to make you a script. You must understand that.

Like one famous character once said:

 

[.KinG.!?]

I just have one question if shadow is doing everything fine then why he closed this thread ? Can someone answer me

We are free to discuss as i said before it's only a discussion not a report

And i think You won't take this seriously only because shadow is staff member

 

[#Lucifer]

Regarding selling scripts, I know about it for a few months already and it has been approved by RESiSTANT. It is not items related, it is a service provided by an individual that knows his craft. Once again, it can be cleared by @MrShadoOow. This kind of help is not in his Game Master job description, improving at PVP is entirely your responsibility. He is not obligated to make you a script. You must understand that.

Like one famous character once said:

May I know sir what is the difference between GM ShadoOoW and Ochie in terms of selling. Since Ochie selling Elag and Shadow Selling scripts. Yet, Mr Ochie got banned. Link: https://forum.infinitymu.net/threads/peanutz.138565/

Does Ochie also needs to ask permission to sir Venci to sell Elag? or it differ on the offer that Ochie wants items ingame (or cash) and on the other hand MrShadoOoW wants 100$

 

[SuperBad]

i dont really care that he sells scripts , doesnt affect me at all in any point , why players dont like him is hes spoiled bimbo attitude , also i dont see the point him too have a gm rank , just create something like a "advisor" rank for him , its enough in my opinion

 

[Tobλ]

Regarding selling scripts, I know about it for a few months already and it has been approved by RESiSTANT. It is not items related, it is a service provided by an individual that knows his craft. Once again, it can be cleared by @MrShadoOow. This kind of help is not in his Game Master job description, improving at PVP is entirely your responsibility. He is not obligated to make you a script. You must understand that.

Like one famous character once said:

May I know sir what is the difference between GM ShadoOoW and Ochie in terms of selling. Since Ochie selling Elag and Shadow Selling scripts. Yet, Mr Ochie got banned. Link: https://forum.infinitymu.net/threads/peanutz.138565/

Does Ochie also needs to ask permission to sir Venci to sell Elag? or it differ on the offer that Ochie wants items ingame (or cash) and on the other hand MrShadoOoW wants 100$

No problem, I will give an explanation and fix my post quote in your post.

Did you see the proofs Ochie has been banned for? If yes, then you would notice he was selling a non item / game related thing via an actual /post in the game. No, he cannot ask for something that is forbidden by rules in the first place.

He was selling subscription-based software that could be used for other games as well. Meanwhile, Shadooow's is not advertising it publicly, and he is not offering any software. Plus, making custom scripts is not mentioned in the rule.

I just have one question if shadow is doing everything fine then why he closed this thread ? Can someone answer me

We are free to discuss as i said before it's only a discussion not a report

And i think You won't take this seriously only because shadow is staff member

I am guessing to prevent potential flames and insults, after all it was and still is a possibility it will end up like this. But I have given you a chance to prove me wrong.

 

[Agapi]

@Toby my precious, Shadow or anybody doesn't have to make scripts for anyone. A Staff member offering his "help" for real cash is highly unethical and immoral. If he wants to profit real cash, he shouldn't be in Staff. Why? Cause he is there to help the community as he wrote on his application. From Staff position you either help with your knowledge or you quit and go sell your knowledge if it is not ban prohibited.
Which brings us to discussion number two.
Why is a player banned for selling a program/service and not a Staff member?
By allowing the above "privileges " to someone from Staff, you degrade the value of those in Staff that offer their time and knowledge to help the community, truly and didn't post it lightly and maliciously in their applications to convince people to agree about them joining Staff.
Staff should protect eachother and by protecting immorality you bring to yourself and the rest mud on your moral integrity.
I understand the "sticking for your buddies/colleagues " mentality but there is a point where enough is enough.
I appreciate all the Staff for their devotion and time spent to bring joy to players who in return bring money.
I don't appreciate covering the unethical actions of certain individuals just cause they are Staff or whatever other reason.
It's just a drop in a bucket of grey zone where this Staff member lives.
Take out Staff from the shadows, it's time.

 

[WoRMeR]

ok i will leave a video about this chat with shadows.

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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now i should ask what kind of "secrets" you got?

i guess bug of sm ? come on man tell now everyone what kind of secrets are you using in Game.

 

[.KinG.!?]

So shadow is selling secrets too ?

I know that You are staff leader sir Toby and You Will defend your staff member but in this case You should ear the COMMUNITY opinion

In this thread no one Will insult or something bad we are just talking like a mature guys

Open your eyes shadow is not a good gm he doesnt help this COMMUNITY
He is Bad , arrogant , always have fight's with players Even in chatbox

 

[Obito]

Just as you have your point of view, I also have mine and I will tell you below: I feel that you are only defending your son Shadow because you do not want to take responsibility for the fact that it was you who decided to accept him in the staff team. I hope you do not try to punish me. asking me for proof of what I say because you are also accusing me of something without having any reliable proof, just saying that because of the ban on "my kind" as you call them, we are making this post.
Virtual goods according to Google:Virtual goods are objects that have apparent and therefore not real existence that are purchased and exchanged on the Internet. A virtual object has no intrinsic value in the physical or real world and is by definition intangible. Wouldn't a script be considered a virtual good? It is a file that becomes part of your virtual assets, in this way it should receive the same punishment as ochie

 

[Agapi]

If it's true that RESiSTANT allows this to GM and staff members my advice goes to him.

Make the rules simple and clear. Staff should not be allowed to sell things like scripts or "help" of any kind.
It's an unethical thing to be done by Staff. Restore the faith of players to Staff members and delete this grey area where this GM lives and thrives.
Nothing wrong if you want to let players to be able to sell "service" but Staff?

The decision then will be up to Shadow if he truly wants to "help the community " or his pocket.
I bet the pocket.