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i like the updates although i have a bit of problems on some of the options on the sets...
the fact the all sets can somewhat stand against each other but some sets became too powerful for example maahes its probably just as porwerful if not more powerful than hyon and vicious combined...same goes with bragi its also probably just as powerful as the two combined...now then hyon and vicious is the traditional uber sets for most if not all bk players...if its the weapon that made the other sets powerful just like mist and cloud+garuda then it wont really matter but in this case it is the that set was updated to make it more powerful...same thing happened on warrior it also received 20 DD(Double Damage) but if we consider the other ancient options i think its good as it is now with the 20 DD...
now im not saying to make hyon/vicious more powerful as well...what im suggesting is to tone down the other sets cause its become too powerful specially maahes...


and on the DLs side i believe same thing happened on the uber khons its also just as powerful due to its massive defense same thing on obscure which can be equipped by DL and BK but i think most will be equipped by DL...
we all know how strong is DD which was demonstrated by the uber mist which has massive double damage and the other options are not really that good but is still powerful cause of its massive double damage...
now if you look at uber obscure it has massive defence and massive double damage which i believe can easily overpower agnis and browii combined...


in short i would really suggest to review the sets specially maahes/bragii/khons and obscure i dont know if i missed something else...

and also it has been proven that DD massively affects PVP...the fact that almost all the updated uber sets have 20 DD made the others nearly just powerful as Agnis+Browii and Hyon+Vicious which is 2 uber sets which i dont think is a good thing we(players who already donated for the combination) which at that time was the most powerful one at that time then suddenly the sets are updated and the others became nearly just as powerful and some even more powerful than the combination i have mentioned above...
its just as they say ''two heads are better than one'' so it also must be ''two sets are better than one''...



yes they have become too overpowered on pvp especially the maahes and obscure, but the bad side of them is they cant be used on events like bk pk,massive pk event and even in pch, they cant even combine the set with tyr blade, and i also hope admin could put additional first options to hyperion because i feel i donated for one when there is no help from it at all, +hp might do good :)

yes you are right it cant be used on the PK event cause of its shield but how about the normal PVP/the PK monthly/kill the boss and also castle siege...
and smok is nearly just as good as tyr set...



i dont believe that im completely right so please do share what you think as well...
 

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Well, to Uber Obscure set.. In my opinion, I think it's better to reduce the defense rate coz it will give unbalance PVP to other class.. When DL's got swell and with its great and continous attack damage it will easily RULE the PVP system due to its great defense which is 55% and also to its DD which is 30%.. Maybe 30% of defense rate would be fine..

Just sharing my opinion.. Thanks..!
 

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For me, Just lessen there percentage by little, it over powered other sets and you do have a point, You spend $50 dollars to have an strong combination set when now all you need to get is mist, or atless tyr. Tyr sword with pendant does play a lot on its parts.


Maahes with full SD cannot be moved in CS Like horse and cyclone it doesn't get pushed around, it alters our castle siege due to its defense and other options.

I have Hyon vic, Agnis and browi but I don't even use it since now I got "Mist+tyr and smok" Which can beat hyon vic, and Guarada and cloud and any other set. Imagine this is only a single set. With hypier only adds Engery which doesn't do much, But another additional skill attack rate 25% which does have a big change in combo, making it seem like its really BMD.
 
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i dont really mind the effect that came when the uber weps are added like Mist+tyr+SMOK overpowering hyon+vicious+tyr cause that was caused by a weapon and not by the set...cause on that case the set is still more powerful...
this time its the set itself that was edited which made it more powerful...


im not just talking about the overly powerful ones im talking on all the other sets as well...
 

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I Agree with Lelouch... they should reduce the options like double damage and incr defence...
or we have to change set every season... Jessus. We must have all sets becaus there is
updates like this.. Money is not free :D Reduce the opts <3

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and also it has been proven that DD massively affects PVP...the fact that almost all the updated uber sets have 20 DD made the others nearly just powerful as Agnis+Browii and Hyon+Vicious which is 2 uber sets which i dont think is a good thing we(players who already donated for the combination) which at that time was the most powerful one at that time then suddenly the sets are updated and the others became nearly just as powerful and some even more powerful than the combination i have mentioned above...
its just as they say ''two heads are better than one'' so it also must be ''two sets are better than one''...






yes you are right it cant be used on the PK event cause of its shield but how about the normal PVP/the PK monthly/kill the boss and also castle siege...
and smok is nearly just as good as tyr set...



i dont believe that im completely right so please do share what you think as well...
Can you point which set combination is more powerful than hyon+vicious or mist+tyr+sacred? All options are balanced against every of the ancient sets, defense, damage and possible combinations.

Anyway guys, let me know what options do you think the sets should have.
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what about new sword it seems it will be uber but with combination with ring or pendant?
 

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what about new sword it seems it will be uber but with combination with ring or pendant?
Probably Ring so you can make some more tweaks to your gameplay. This will allow the usage of Tyr as well and not exclude it from the gameplay with the new sword update.
Besides Tyr+Smok now you can make combinations with the new sword.
 
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Can you point which set combination is more powerful than hyon+vicious or mist+tyr+sacred? All options are balanced against every of the ancient sets, defense, damage and possible combinations.

Anyway guys, let me know what options do you think the sets should have.
Thanks!
its not even combination a single set is more powerful than 2 sets combined...im talking about maahes and its not only maahes...

plus yes i do believe that the other sets needs editing but putting 20DD on almost all sets...i dont think its a good idea...
cause as of right now even bragii set alone can match hyon+vicious which means that bragii>hyon and bragii>vicious and its supposed to be the other way around...
i would suggest making DD on the edited sets at least 10% except if it have massive def (e.g obscure etc) not only the example ive given but several others as well...
i set my eyes on the DD as its been proven how powerful DD is by the uber mist set...


and also its not only the dragon ubers that was overpowered by the newly updated sets...uber admantine also is the same...
 

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I strongly disagree.First of all for me it doesn't matter which uber set u paid more, is more powerful than other set with less money.Still rudolph set can beat every uber set u want cause it's on the players ping, skills and abilities. Last, mist for example offers DD dmg. Cloud offer critical.Hyon offers excellent dmg rate and its combination vicious some more defense. So it depends what damage u want to attack with and the chances of it. ;)
 

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its not even combination a single set is more powerful than 2 sets combined...im talking about maahes and its not only maahes...

plus yes i do believe that the other sets needs editing but putting 20DD on almost all sets...i dont think its a good idea...
cause as of right now even bragii set alone can match hyon+vicious which means that bragii>hyon and bragii>vicious and its supposed to be the other way around...
i would suggest making DD on the edited sets at least 10% except if it have massive def (e.g obscure etc) not only the example ive given but several others as well...
i set my eyes on the DD as its been proven how powerful DD is by the uber mist set...


and also its not only the dragon ubers that was overpowered by the newly updated sets...uber admantine also is the same...
We can update dragon sets in this case because there's no point using other ancient sets if they are not strong. Anyway Hyon and Vicious remain the best sets for BK. Nothing is overpowered. All options are well combined and work for the characters fine. If hyon is missing something out let me know what you think should have be changed. The situaton is that we can change anything but with a reason.
 

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We can update dragon sets in this case because there's no point using other ancient sets if they are not strong. Anyway Hyon and Vicious remain the best sets for BK. Nothing is overpowered. All options are well combined and work for the characters fine. If hyon is missing something out let me know what you think should have be changed. The situaton is that we can change anything but with a reason.
How about increasing Vicious options? For example Double Damage and Decrease opponent's defense rating? From 10% to 15%.
 

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increase the defensive skill and double damage of hyon
and also uber mist set needs an update to because of the very low defense maybe add defensive skill opt for mist and increase the attributes from 50 maybe increase to 100
 
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Just a suggestion. (Vicious' Set) Increasing the Decreases Opponent's Defensive rating from 10% to 15 - 20% would be a better idea than adding the percentage of it's Double damage option.
 
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We can update dragon sets in this case because there's no point using other ancient sets if they are not strong. Anyway Hyon and Vicious remain the best sets for BK. Nothing is overpowered. All options are well combined and work for the characters fine. If hyon is missing something out let me know what you think should have be changed. The situaton is that we can change anything but with a reason.
yes hyon+vicious probably barely remains than the others but that is if its combined...
my point is that you need hyon+vicious to match the other uber sets...hyon alone cannot fight the other newly updated sets...same goes with vicious alone...
powering up these sets would only make PVP a lot shorter which is not a good idea as it would make it boring so its better to tone down the other uber options...
ive seen maahes before update on PVP and CS and its already powerful as it is...
like ive said...uber mist has already proven how powerful DD is so putting 20DD on almost all sets and some even 30 DD and the dragon remained 10 each...


and i dont know why the discussion was focused mainly on dragons cause same thing is going with uber admantines...
 

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It is simply make the Hyon + Vic and Agnis + Browii more better than the new released sets.
 

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Just a suggestion. (Vicious' Set) Increasing the Decreases Opponent's Defensive rating from 10% to 15 - 20% would be a better idea than adding the percentage of it's Double damage option.
and maybe add defensive skill,i think both dragon need some increase and should be best comibnation like was before this updates
 

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No love for Rave and Kantata ;(
I support the idea to add some nice options to Kantata and Rave,they are nice sets and I used them a while back,but couldn't par with the Hyon users and it made me change sets for that matter.
Are there any options which can be added to those two sets without making them overpowered,if they are it would be great!
 

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I support the idea to add some nice options to Kantata and Rave,they are nice sets and I used them a while back,but couldn't par with the Hyon users and it made me change sets for that matter.
Are there any options which can be added to those two sets without making them overpowered,if they are it would be great!
Rave with smok and tyr would have following options:
- Increase skill attacking rate +45
- Double damage 35%
- Increase damage when using two handed wepoans +30%
- Decrease opponent's defense rating +10%.
Is that so bad?
 
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