Discussion Castle Siege

[MASiGLA]

Hi,

Since I came back I feel like newbie here but from what I've heard the Staff will only ask specific GM of registered guild in Castle Siege and if that person will not be able to provide any video will get ban... Cant it just be general like all GM should be recording instead of just specific person? And I also heard rumors that in switch is no longer natural like the old times they are not being push even with special skills or stomps, cyclones, etc. Can we have mandatory staff checking CS every week to see if something is wrong? Because everyone is waiting for this event once a week like me who came back just to play Castle Siege.

Hoping to hear your opinions... Thanks buds!

 

[ViolaMania]

Hello and warm welcome back.
In the past months EM's attended to supervise the CS.
Dser from GM's side...but not that often.
This subject is being discussed every now and then with no results.
There are players who's fair playing but doesnt want to share with everyone theyr game play and how they seal. (On that i agree with them)

There are players which are not fair and using fishy stuffs to seal and hold the switch.
The only way to deal the bad things that's happening is the ppl focus theyr eyes and aim well on the fishy boys for record them and report.
Even thou, the report it will happen after CS which is sad.
There's not enough staffers on gm side to do this job also i can say.
The one and only to care about CS as i said is Dser. Others are in the staff for reading logs and ban ppl, or sake knows.
Tbh i don't want the ally master to be forced to record his gameplay.. i only one time tried to do livestream and my poor lappy been screaming blood at me to stop it cuz the huge laag is killing him.
So no..for recordings but yes for more active gm's into CS.
Ciao.

 

[MASiGLA]

Hello and warm welcome back.
In the past months EM's attended to supervise the CS.
Dser from GM's side...but not that often.
This subject is being discussed every now and then with no results.
There are players who's fair playing but doesnt want to share with everyone theyr game play and how they seal. (On that i agree with them)

There are players which are not fair and using fishy stuffs to seal and hold the switch.
The only way to deal the bad things that's happening is the ppl focus theyr eyes and aim well on the fishy boys for record them and report.
Even thou, the report it will happen after CS which is sad.
There's not enough staffers on gm side to do this job also i can say.
The one and only to care about CS as i said is Dser. Others are in the staff for reading logs and ban ppl, or sake knows.
Tbh i don't want the ally master to be forced to record his gameplay.. i only one time tried to do livestream and my poor lappy been screaming blood at me to stop it cuz the huge laag is killing him.
So no..for recordings but yes for more active gm's into CS.
Ciao.

Well yes I noticed only Dser is active in doing it so props to you bud.
I know Staff also have their own life since this potential anti-push thats being used every CS is a very huge threat for the event since the user can also pretend by just moving around and all.

We've got no choice but to have MANDATORY self recording or GM watching the game for whole 2hrs. I got poor lappy too that I used when I was sealing last 2 weeks but I thought I needed to record without them asking me hahaha and its better to lose than someone sealing easy like someone I know who just know PK before now he is sealing so faster than the speed of light lmfao.

Hopefully this get issue gets taken care of...

Peace

 

[Prada]

Somebody must have amused you by saying that we ask specific player(s) to record the whole time siege event.
This is not a clothes shop to choose a specific costume that fits us well.

Things doesn't happen like this.

The algorithm of the process is just a reverse of what your assumptions are. Player being reported for sealing with hack,
the report gets investigation, and if the majorities' agreements overlap, decision are taken. The story starts right here.
The guilty player makes an appeal or straightly contacts administrator with a request to be given a chance to prove himself,
and in this case he is voluntarily recording his game.

Just like in this case. CLICK

The same goes for macro users, one can record his game with all conditions included and
reach acquittal, and even be gifted with a combo master tag. It has sense and logic.
And here is what ridicules me more 'they have courage to run custom cheat but humble to record due to the poor laptop'

@ViolaMania

Staff team overseeing almost every siege event, not all the team together but at least one of us are regularly attending.
And i don't see any necessity on the whole team to participate during castle siege.
Each of us have real life schedules and it will be good for you to approach to that with all respect instead of mocking around.
You are lack of information of what happens behind the scenes so filter your mouth, be a good boy and express your thoughts in a right manner (without subliminal messages).
İt may end up with frustration.

Now if that thread won't be filled with meaningless complains and accusations that staff team is not enough on their duties, it can stay actual for future replies.

 

[Sava]

Hi folks. Lemme share my opinion about current situation of castle siege. @AsungoT has stated correctly about the event is not like old times.

There's exact situation that could be someone isn't move on the switch while holding it or at the crown while sealing.

Also what do I see there are almost no seal, only full defending. What's the reason of it? is defending good or are those sealers just useless?
What do I analyze is those guild / alliances trying to seal, even changing sealers in the CS time or every week, sometimes they changing the sealer several times in single CS, but still they cannot seal. So what is the reason? Those people have sealed in the past / old times. What's changed? Why do they suddenly became useless sealers?

As you know sealers were using minimum sd set parts 4 , maximum 6 in old times. They're still using sd set. Game mechanics for character classes have been changed. For example, if soul masters or elves were considering as "BUFFER" classes before, they are able to hit like a "Gun Machine" now.
Let's say an ELF using DINO and hitting like a Gun Machine against a SEALER who's using SD SET. The Sealer will not be able to have a chance to fill up SD BAR and if he can't has the chance of it, he will be in trouble to seal.

and if we could back to the situation of sealing at crown without moving even if we consider these specific skills like "cyclone" "horse skill" "lightning" etc are useless. I will suggest a solution.

Firstly, we have to close old fashioned Castle Siege event book. Then we should move to new castle siege point system. But as you know there may be a some issues like not all alliances could fight till the end and so on. So it's necessary to think about this system and modify it to make the system more suitable and playable.

Also I do suggest to give back the honor of the sealing & leading position to the Dark Lord. A castle awaits its master and king. As you know the character class has been created in season 1 and his purpose to unite and lead his team. So everyone will be able to seal as its original mechanic and sealing with bks without moving issue will be disappeared. This recommendation belongs to the new system.

 

[MASiGLA]

Somebody must have amused you by saying that we ask specific player(s) to record the whole time siege event.
This is not a clothes shop to choose a specific costume that fits us well.

? Pinterest quotes?

Im not sure if I understood it correctly but I heard it from everyone including you that its going to be a specific player and of course everything needs further investigation first before you take action.

I agree from what you've said Josh and lots of people here is using gaming mouse and "that" custom cheat reality check. And lets be honest if someone who has multiple ban history like me will automatically need to record when sealing if I'm planning to attack. So that only solution I can see here is MANDATORY recording of each Guild Master's while sealing and send it to RESiSTANT or atleast 1 or 2 GM observing whats happening. Thats the only option we got so far unless you got other ideas because I dont wanna waste my time playing Siege every week having difficulty sealing while others seal without hassle and of course my friends who will play with me.

But thanks for sharing your opinion Josh!

Hi folks. Lemme share my opinion about current situation of castle siege. @AsungoT has stated correctly about the event is not like old times.

There's exact situation that could be someone isn't move on the switch while holding it or at the crown while sealing.

Also what do I see there are almost no seal, only full defending. What's the reason of it? is defending good or are those sealers just useless?
What do I analyze is those guild / alliances trying to seal, even changing sealers in the CS time or every week, sometimes they changing the sealer several times in single CS, but still they cannot seal. So what is the reason? Those people have sealed in the past / old times. What's changed? Why do they suddenly became useless sealers?

As you know sealers were using minimum sd set parts 4 , maximum 6 in old times. They're still using sd set. Game mechanics for character classes have been changed. For example, if soul masters or elves were considering as "BUFFER" classes before, they are able to hit like a "Gun Machine" now.
Let's say an ELF using DINO and hitting like a Gun Machine against a SEALER who's using SD SET. The Sealer will not be able to have a chance to fill up SD BAR and if he can't has the chance of it, he will be in trouble to seal.

and if we could back to the situation of sealing at crown without moving even if we consider these specific skills like "cyclone" "horse skill" "lightning" etc are useless. I will suggest a solution.

Firstly, we have to close old fashioned Castle Siege event book. Then we should move to new castle siege point system. But as you know there may be a some issues like not all alliances could fight till the end and so on. So it's necessary to think about this system and modify it to make the system more suitable and playable.

Also I do suggest to give back the honor of the sealing & leading position to the Dark Lord. A castle awaits its master and king. As you know the character class has been created in season 1 and his purpose to unite and lead his team. So everyone will be able to seal as its original mechanic and sealing with bks without moving issue will be disappeared. This recommendation belongs to the new system.

Finally someone with full knowledge about Siege! I agree with Sava and we dont care about bringing back the old way of CS but again, lets try to come up with a solution here.

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Anymore thoughts regarding this matter? Come on raise your hands there are many people playing CS as far as i know hehe

 

[Gannel]

Hi, we've tried to reach out to everyone about this same idea back then, just click the link below. Believe me, this topic will be trashed again and again. Anyway, let's just hope the "STAFFS" right now will be better.. Back in my days,(mostly) they just wait for someone's report in order to catch a certain player. I even got ban for just leaking the said apps lmao.

Recording at Castle Siege Event.

Due to the recent bans, I've found a better solution to lessen or rather end all of the doubts/speculations within each other. Since GM Superstell is very active in castle siege especially doing it via live stream. May we request other GM to help him monitor/do record everything also on the...

forum.infinitymu.net

 

[Forum Super Niceguy]

Hi fellas,


Nothing will be lost if we try and implement in the meantime. To see if this will make a difference during Castle Siege, because there is a lot of news spreading inside/outside the game that there are some who use paid hax (I will not mention any names who they are, I'm not in the right place to interfere) that they are not moving during holding the switch and whenever they are sealing. I suggest that it can be implemented open bandi-cam/full desktop record, open running hidden apps, task manager before the start and until the end of Castle Siege with sealers during CS (Main Guild).

This way we can't say that other staff in our community are biased and they can accept other suggestions from a few players.


Thank you,
Vape

 

[HacoB]

Hi

Iam not a sealer but iam totally AGREE to this topic. Recording when you are goin to seal, or recording untill you sealed or live stream full desktop with task manager. This is a big event that everyone enjoys every Saturday. So I didnt see anything wrong by just recording???? Or Live Stream??????? Hide something??
I support this idea.
Thats all Ciao <3

 

[Abesta]

Hello guys,

Well, there is a suggestion thread one an old and known player opened, and? Most of the players didnt share their opinions while they have - I belive. I will share my opinion here but probably this will be the first time ever I share opinion on such a serious theme with zero feedback from players, so this will be my opinion only.

Yesterday at 18.06.2022 I decided to take part in CS after a long time. I made a mistake by knewing. Started event at very begining. I was in one Attacker Alliance. CS Been boring for me as hell. Well, I know, I have no emotional feeling for that ally or any other but yet my problem was gameplay. Couldn`t kill anyone, no one could kill me, couldn`t kill any switcher, any crown defender and so. Then why I was at there? What was my help for my ally by having zero effect other than +1 online? After 30mins of playing and watching one ally holding switches but cant seal for long, that was enough for me and I quit.

I dont know if I am the only one thinks CS is boring, yet I am not attending every week. It was boring at old days too but not like this. Now there are too many sets with def builds and so one. It really hard to kill someone in such PVP event. Now I want to know if I am alone with this sense or not.

Since this is suggestion thread, I have suggestion. I didnt want to create new one with another CS topic and will give my suggestion in here. First of all, forcing Guild Master recording his(her) gameplay while sealing? Rofl. What kind of solution is this? Why players have to be pushed for recording their gameplay on such a gameside event? Well i am sorry but sounds ridiculous for me.

My suggestion based on PVP side of things. Since this is PVP event, let the best guild with better PVP strategy, better party wins that. Not who has more online just for stomp, more online just crowded Crown and switches. Making CS server formulas just like server 3 or a little tweaks might solve the problem. You never know without giving it a chance, testing it. Let players prepare CS with their gears, supporters, killers, tanky geared players. Why not? Why you have to battle with just 1 skill aka Stomp, with 123 spamming for combo without really needing to click qwe? is that fun to play? Fun to play is excitement. You have to be excited while playing. Every minutes of that 2 hours a week. Just imagine, you prepared your guild for attacking and you will have one hell of a battle in front of crown enterance or even at castle. You have buffers, killers, your fellow members got killed or killing rivals. Thats how you play CS. Thats how CS played default. I myself played CS on 2006-2008s at official server and on tons of servers. CS is PVP event, not event for Testing your combo or stomp abilities or how long your pot rate let you last. In current version of CS you cant even detect cheaters, because thats how crowded switch or crown is. Everyone is inside and in 3 places mostly. In my version even after allies able to pass to crown place, they will need defenders for their switchers, for their sealers. Defenders also will need killers for defeat the outcome.

I dont know, thats how CS meant to be and that sounds great and full of 2 hours for me. Even Max guild for one ally count can be decreased from 5 to 3. That makes allies equal to each other because there is a limit, you cant join that guild but the other one waits for you.


With my version of CS I and many more old players will want to play at least once a week. Even will want to buy better gear for to be able to compete.

 

[NaturalS]

Hello guys,

Well, there is a suggestion thread one an old and known player opened, and? Most of the players didnt share their opinions while they have - I belive. I will share my opinion here but probably this will be the first time ever I share opinion on such a serious theme with zero feedback from players, so this will be my opinion only.

Yesterday at 18.06.2022 I decided to take part in CS after a long time. I made a mistake by knewing. Started event at very begining. I was in one Attacker Alliance. CS Been boring for me as hell. Well, I know, I have no emotional feeling for that ally or any other but yet my problem was gameplay. Couldn`t kill anyone, no one could kill me, couldn`t kill any switcher, any crown defender and so. Then why I was at there? What was my help for my ally by having zero effect other than +1 online? After 30mins of playing and watching one ally holding switches but cant seal for long, that was enough for me and I quit.

I dont know if I am the only one thinks CS is boring, yet I am not attending every week. It was boring at old days too but not like this. Now there are too many sets with def builds and so one. It really hard to kill someone in such PVP event. Now I want to know if I am alone with this sense or not.

Since this is suggestion thread, I have suggestion. I didnt want to create new one with another CS topic and will give my suggestion in here. First of all, forcing Guild Master recording his(her) gameplay while sealing? Rofl. What kind of solution is this? Why players have to be pushed for recording their gameplay on such a gameside event? Well i am sorry but sounds ridiculous for me.

My suggestion based on PVP side of things. Since this is PVP event, let the best guild with better PVP strategy, better party wins that. Not who has more online just for stomp, more online just crowded Crown and switches. Making CS server formulas just like server 3 or a little tweaks might solve the problem. You never know without giving it a chance, testing it. Let players prepare CS with their gears, supporters, killers, tanky geared players. Why not? Why you have to battle with just 1 skill aka Stomp, with 123 spamming for combo without really needing to click qwe? is that fun to play? Fun to play is excitement. You have to be excited while playing. Every minutes of that 2 hours a week. Just imagine, you prepared your guild for attacking and you will have one hell of a battle in front of crown enterance or even at castle. You have buffers, killers, your fellow members got killed or killing rivals. Thats how you play CS. Thats how CS played default. I myself played CS on 2006-2008s at official server and on tons of servers. CS is PVP event, not event for Testing your combo or stomp abilities or how long your pot rate let you last. In current version of CS you cant even detect cheaters, because thats how crowded switch or crown is. Everyone is inside and in 3 places mostly. In my version even after allies able to pass to crown place, they will need defenders for their switchers, for their sealers. Defenders also will need killers for defeat the outcome.

I dont know, thats how CS meant to be and that sounds great and full of 2 hours for me. Even Max guild for one ally count can be decreased from 5 to 3. That makes allies equal to each other because there is a limit, you cant join that guild but the other one waits for you.


With my version of CS I and many more old players will want to play at least once a week. Even will want to buy better gear for to be able to compete.

mate I totally agreed with you, I think we need to reduce the defense inside the castle, its just a bit boring game because of this increase defense inside the castle,
I played CS way back time (no buff) that was very awesome exchanging of seals, killing switchers.

about the accumulation time of seals. Do I miss something here? Did the accumulation time go longer?

 

[Gannel]

First of all, forcing Guild Master recording his(her) gameplay while sealing? Rofl. What kind of solution is this? Why players have to be pushed for recording their gameplay on such a gameside event? Well i am sorry but sounds ridiculous for me.
---------- In current version of CS you cant even detect cheaters, because thats how crowded switch or crown is.

Yep heh so ridiculous that you even said it yourself why some of us are eager on implementing this "ridiculous" suggestion, but don't get me wrong you have atleast a pt.

 

[Freddy]

@Abesta
I don't understand why they complain that they don't kill... I played killer for a long time recording myself and you can see videos of other classes I'll also leave you some of the links so you can see if it's possible to kill someone in cs when it's not possible to kill a switcher for that there is the sten and the horse to do teamwork you could take out a switcher without having to kill him but well I don't understand all this because I see the pvp part well........ It seems to me that the cs does not catch your attention and that is why it seems boring and long

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You can see in all the videos that it is possible to kill switcher sealers or without the need to kill them make him lose it

 

[Cloud!]

@Abesta I agree with @#Buddy- here, that it is possible to kill during CS, it might have been harder than few years back but it is still doable. CS is also about the strategy of an alliance and quick reaction of players. You have to find ways to play your role for your alliance. One thing I could applaud the current castle owners is they always seem to have enough kills to get so many sterns. So your opinion that it seems impossible to kill does not really have any merits on it.
I do agree with @SNatural that it has been harder to seal since the recent updates, it seems even using accessories appropriate for CS such as ring of earth, pen of lightning, ring of ice and etc doesn’t work or maybe it’s just me in a very low ping.
The suggestion of having sealers to record themselves every CS might seem ridiculous to you, sealing has been that hard that it’s been impressive how other sealers makes it look so effortlessly, but at the same time there has been some merits for players suspicions since lots of these sealers who made it seems effortless have been banned. So no, it’s not ridiculous for players to suggest sealers to record while sealing.

 

[Freddy]

mate I totally agreed with you, I think we need to reduce the defense inside the castle, its just a bit boring game because of this increase defense inside the castle,
I played CS way back time (no buff) that was very awesome exchanging of seals, killing switchers.

about the accumulation time of seals. Do I miss something here? Did the accumulation time go longer?

I do not agree with you since this is a team game to be able to defend the crown you must put in as much dls as you can to be able to make the stamp more difficult since the thing is to win if I put 100 dls I would not have to reduce any defense since I am supposed to defend it, the one that really manages to seal it is because he is very good at his job

Doing the job of sealing is heavy since the team depends on you but at the same time the most difficult job inside the castle and if for example I manage to seal my goal is for my ally to play almost all of dls to be able to defend the heavy work that I made to seal