Discussion Important Question

[stranh]

I've spent here some time on server and I can tell there is one thing which make me nervous. A half of server use some kind of programs like AP, SH. On website as we can see there is - server is protected very well and using AP is impossible. I'm just writing Admin and some GM's opinion. I have to give very hard proof on video to prove that I'm right. It's stupid as fu** because players are not idiot and they will not click "enter" while duel and send on chat: qweqweqweqwewqeqwewqeqwe. You have my words : this server is not protected very well. Normal news private servers have same antihack like this. This account is only for tell about the truth. I've tried to run AP or SH and it's really very simple. I tried and everything worked and I didn't get ban as well dc.
It's really weird if I'm using full buff +shield +uber sets and I died from 1hit (ts) from player without any buffs. It's really very simple even not for hacker. I can compare those anti hack with kid and toys - kid have fun with toys when he want. My question is: What the fu** is going on? This server really looks bad, because if this will not changed, I will publish all ways to use hack on this servers. After all, each individual player will know how to use AP, SH and other nice programs. Please make server more safety. We don't want this.
Have a nice day.
Anonymous player.

 

[NaturalS]

Nobody's perfect

Even human he cant reach perfect level, you know what does it mean?.
That's why we have GM's here to banned the Hackers, and if they cooperate with the GMs and admin
to send their working program it would be easy to block those illegal programs.
The Mu guard of the InfinityMU is strong compare to the other server.
Each game has a cheaters, that's the fact! we can't do anything about that.
All we need to do as a citizen of the InfinityMU is cooperation.
1. send the illegal programs to the admin.
2. report the hacker guy and he cant play with hack in InfinityMU

hope my post will enlighten ur mind. :sexy23:

 

[stranh]

I don't think so because sometime ago I reported a lot of players and usually GM's refused my reports. Even if I had player with SH on video I couldn't prove it because I didn't show my stats. How Player who plays 4-5 years (it's possible to check in databases) with ubers sets can not have max stats? It's impossible. I couldn't report player who is not hacker. If we can see person who is killing everyone on 1 hit even he can kill full buffer on 1 hit It's SH and end story. I suppose a lot of GM's and moderators are newbie, dumb or something if they can't see it. Maybe they are selling ways to their friends how to use sh or ap?

I suppose I will get ban without reason and after all topic will deleted.

 

[Efraim]

offc not u will not get ban its free to share ur opinion

 

[TechN9ne]

I have to give very hard proof on video to prove that I'm right. It's stupid as fu** because players are not idiot and they will not click "enter" while duel and send on chat: qweqweqweqwewqeqwewqeqwe.

You see, we cant make mistakes on banning players for hacks , thats why we ask 100% strong proof to avoid tons of ban appeals and all complains about GMs banning innocent players.
Also as RESiSTANT says some of hacks CANT be blocked, like that cmd speedhack. Its not easy even for a coder such as Resi.
There are no servers with anticheat which blocks EVERY hack. Everytime there are releasing lots of new hacks which cant be blocked.
Dont blame staff because we do everything to make server clean.
If you want to support, send all working hacks to RESiSTANT, and try to catch and report any hacker and possibly there will be less hackers.

 

[Luigir]

Hello
I understand you...
but there are people who try to infiltrate a server like ours, as they do? Selling illegal programs, here, there, gives the same.

As in this picture, I found it via facebook and clearly tells good
"I need to sell hacks".They specify the risk of using an illegal program, but apparently not a problem for some.
really thank you for caring about our server, but unfortunately whenever we shall be witnessing this.
I hope that over time, our server may have a better safety.
I hope so!

 

[Abesta]

Hello stranh,

Well, the fact is, in everywhere have cheaters. In every job, in everything, in real life and in virtual. Cheaters are people who thinks that they are winning. But they are just dreaming, their cheats ends as punishment. Everytime! In real life and in virtual.

About anti-cheat, anti-cheat system of InfinityMU is the best guard between all exist mu online servers! In InfinityMU, there works only 2-3-4 cheating program, which we got. But this programs is really hard to block and InfinityMU Team working hard to do something about these programs.

Well, community have 2 kind of people. Goods and Evils. In MuOnline, evils breaks rules and goods catching evils and everytime gets victory. You my friend, with this thread you wants to show us that you are Good, maaan you are a Angel. But you are not!!!!! You are an EViL side!

I will publish all ways to use hack on this servers. After all, each individual player will know how to use AP, SH and other nice programs.

And you will find solution on it? The correct solution is, fighting against evils! Don`t forget, GOOD side always win, ALWAYS!!! And btw, go share your cheats, don`t wait. Do we care? Anyways we will win against them, and if you choose their sides, you will be in losers side!

I get you, sometimes you bored of hackers. But sometimes, we are boring of some reports too, Like someone reporting a guy, who is totally normal. And reporter guy's proof is: he killed several times, the reported guy is cheater. Funny! No one is immortal here. Everyone thinks that, him has 100000% knowledge about MuOnline, but not really. And about some video policy rules. If you are reporting someone, you have to read rules first, then report.

Solution, Fighting against Cheaters! There always be cheaters, even those programs been blocked, new ones will be created!

 

[ike]

I've seen a lot of players using cheats in game, I've reported some players but some of them didn't get banned because of not enough proof. the question is why? because GM's asks 100% proof so that they can avoid a lot of players complaining about banning innocent players. they are doing their best to make the server the best. well my advice is too send the hacks to the admins so that they can block them and report players that use illegal hacks. if you want to have a fair server then you should help.

 

[SuperStell]

And what you want us to do? okay ''bro'' I'll buy one cristal ball and ban everyone who's using SH or should I ask God to tell me who's cheating? Wake up my friend, every MU Online have cheaters, every game have cheater, sad that peoples can't play fair and need advices to play and need hacks to play, that's not our fault, that's players fault, I'm sure much of you guys have cheaters that we dont have, but you guys prefer use than send it for us try to block it, if the whole server helps us, maybe we can't block like 95% of cheaters, some of them is hard, like MHH but RESiSTANT find a way to block it, I'm sure he will find a way to block the cmd speed hack too. Better than make a forum account and act like a ''kid'' saying the server have no defence, you should come here in your own and ask to ur friends and players to send us all hacks they have, and we will block it and also send the cheaters u have, but it's better to flame than try to help dont it? Give the whole problem to us is easy than try to solve it with us right?

 

[stranh]

Abesta, the problem is that after 4-5 years here I never used any program and I'm just sad when someone who killed me with SH or AC is laughing and feels stronger. I know It's not true but It's bored. You said I'm evil - I wrote about publish hacks because I want you, to see players care about this server. And It's not true, when I will publish program which I'm sure is almost impossible to block, some players will stop play and other players will use this **** all time but I don't want this. And about reporting players - It's almost impossible to get proof as GM's and Admin wish. I'm not waiting for moment when player use hack and record it because It's also almost impossible. Some hackers use SH only when they have problem, for example - I will use full buff on GoldPet and with shield, I will kill everyone on stadium, doesn't matter which server and some player will get mad and he will kill me on 1 shot.



SuperStell you think I'm acting like kid when I just want help? We are not talking about cmd speed hack. Even AP or AC is working correctly without problems. but I have one question. What about legal AP or AC? Something like that exist?

 

[Abesta]

Friend, I get you. And I know that, we have enough cheaters. But let them be pro, they will always be caught. I think very soon those programs will be blocked too, then we will see those "Professionals". They will leave server or will find another hacks. There will always be cheaters, like in real life.

And one more thing. In banning, we need 100% proof. Not just because proof have to be clear to us for to set ban. It is because, if we ban someone and proof not 100% then he will create, Ban Appeal, and then what will we prove to him? We will post that Video or what ever and if proof not 100%, he will be able provide himself that he is clear. Then, GM will be called Unexperienced.

 

[SuperStell]

SuperStell you think I'm acting like kid when I just want help? We are not talking about cmd speed hack. Even AP or AC is working correctly without problems. but I have one question. What about legal AP or AC? Something like that exist?

I didn't said you're a kid, but I think you dont know but some keyboards and mouses have macro and they can be used as AP/AC as well, what you want us to do with it? It's really easy to make AP/AC programs, we can't block 100% of them but you can sure one day they will fail and we will be there to ban them!

 

[Wayne]

You wont get banned for speaking your opinion just don't spread lies that RESiSTANT doesn't block cheats and the server isn't protected because you would be very wrong there.

Compared to many other servers InfinityMU has more players so ofc. they will come up with new hacks and programs BUT RESiSTANT blocks most of them as you send it to him if you don't send the hacks you know then how will he know which ones to block?

You might even be wrong it might NOT even be backs because I know for a fact a BK with critical buff (dl buff) and gold pet can kill you VERY fast so imagine with crit + elf buff he can kill you in mere seconds.

Your forum activity is a mere 4% meaning you aren't very active on the forums because if you were active you would see how many cheaters the GM team catches, take a look: http://forum.infinitymu.net/forumdisplay.php?102-Ban-List

Yes many reports are denied even many of mine in the past but its because they need to be 100% sure that the user was using hacks or some form of cheats or else imagine if a fair player is banned for hacks it would be very wrong.

 

[RESiSTANT]

We have blocked so many bugs and hacks with the years but it comes to a moment where some new hacks coming out with new working methods which cannot be block at the moment. I am not god to do the things you wish for. Sorry but in this case you don't have position to say "What's wrong here?" while we do ban cheaters every day - just check the ban list section for your info. Other loyal members said it all as well.

This topic should be closed. I don't see any purpose to continue discussion about this. We are pretty much aware that some random players using hacks and if you check the ban list section you will notice that we working on the problem. They also are aware will be blocked without the possibility to unban from webshop unless pay the real price for it - $25 USD which should guarantee that the player won't use any hacks because if caught second time his donation will be denied and account blocked permanently without chances to appeal. This is an expensive lose for some players but they start to value the account once lose it once.

Please make server more safety. We don't want this.
Have a nice day.
Anonymous player.

stranh, while you don't represent yourself to the community we don't want to hear anything from you because you are actually not into the things we are all here. You don't have any reputation at the forum and don't even want to tell your real character name in-game then you don't have rights to complain in here because you are no one and even you can be some admin from other games trying to put bad reputation for this server while not seeing what's going on. I understand that you seek some hacks in-game but they are block-able in the moment you report them to us. (the hack program or the suspicious player with an video report). Sending bad feedback without any arguments and facts is useless and will be ignored.

About hack reports - simple reports are denied because they are simply not-proving and if you put a little logic on how hack works and how the video hack report looks then you will understand why we shouldn't ban someone because he might be innocent. Only fools would start to set random bans just because someone reported for a "hacker" and we have to 100% trust that guy because he telling the truth that the player is using hack in the video or the picture that he send us. Makes no sense, am I right?

 

[LiVELOUD]

Yeah.. GOoo Vince.. We are only a Human.. No Bodies Perfect.. Our Server is Unique and Very enjoy.. and NeverMind The player Using HACKS .. because they will not be strong without HACKS . They are Living here with HACKS .. And we Can help Our Server to Report THose SH,AP USERS .. Because They are Always Find WAys to play with HACKS.. thats ALL i can SAY..

I Really LOVE this game <3