Pvp system

[-[Sieghart]-]

For me no need to increase Pot Rate they need to concentrate more in balancing there UBER sets . and I know that they are doing there best to fix this.. :nuhnuh::nuhnuh:

 

[Trivela2]

Every1 who said "disagree" thinks that I WANT NO POT LIMIT thats wrong, I dont want 10+ pots.. I just suggested increase 1-2 pot per sec more than now, Nikki u says that u did nice pvp with Kostas - yea I believe u but Kostas doesnt has ping above 100 aight? I did many duels vs Defj@M and we also are playing long, I just looking for solution vs the high ping players like pinoys and some azeris. Nikki try them not the low pings euros like me.

 

[Snapback]

IMHO, pot rate is fine if that's your issue. I think uber sets balancing is needed. Right now, people just mix up their sets and have insane damage. And if you're crying about ping, I think the better suggestion is to have the host migrated to a location where the ping of most players will meet halfway. That way, I believe issues like this wouldn't even come up

 

[Abesta]

Boyz do what ever you want. You guys are in totally wrong way to solve this problem.

There are the damn formulas(for season 2-3)
Double Damage combinations cant be more than 25%.
EDRI cant be more than 40-50%(Pendant and pair included)
CDRI same as EDRI formula.

But in here, ubers are really buffed very hard. Sad that i dont really know names of new ubers. But there is one and i think its name is Tyr with shield. Players with abnormal combination plus that TYr shield and sword has more damage than my Uber Hyon + Vicious plus Sacred. How in the hell?

Do what balance you want in character. You cant get the best. How can it be hard to back the old uber options?

Ateast these new options should be like that- Some sets must give better critical, some sets must give better EdRi, some better DD and some better defence. And it needs really hard work to calculate everything.

I just looking for solution vs the high ping players like pinoys and some azeris.

You must be kidding in here right? I am Azeri player as well and believe me I have slowest connection and Pc than them all and I have 80ping with 4-5 pots per second. Without potion delay, I am potting 9-10 per second.

 

[Halfdanjal]

My pot rate without cap is about 13 - 15 pots per second, in my signature you can see my internet speed. It's too huge considering most of players are from PH and I doubt that they can do more than 7 which is roughly twice as worse than me. No, the cap must stay. I agree to making it a BIT more, until 7 or so, but no more. And why do you always talk about BK fights?

Elf - Can kill SM with ease, can kill DL if DL doesn't get to elf first, MG is dead af no matter what, I don't know about BK.
MG - Can kill SM, elf, DL and BK is out of discussion.
SM - With the right combination can kill pretty much everything, personally for me it's hard to kill DL only and good BK's, but eventually they die also.
DL - Can kill anything.
BK - Can kill anything.

I haven't played with my elf much, I don't really know about elf, I know about SM and DL. How is it ok, that damage is so big, that elf can kill DL in 1 second, not even mentioning SM, which just melts. SM has pretty much damage with ubers, but ONLY with ubers, I have 110% DD, about 50% wizardy, I don't remember, and only then I can do something worthy, without that the SM is nothing. I mean, the balance is better than it was, kudos to Dreams and RESiSTANT, but it still requires some changes. And the change I want the most is rework of EVERY uber set, meaning that uber sets mostly trigger only when equipped fully. Weapon + ring or weapon + pendant, if that gives something, that is alright from any set, but mixing 4 sets in one, that not only looks ugly but is too overpowered. Removing that could change something already.

 

[Aggresif]

Hello guys, I want to suggest a little increase in the pot rate. Since the ubers are modified, they has hella dmg and now most of the pvp's ends in 3-10 seconds ( most of them by 1 combo ) which is bad in my opinion. For me its not normal a player with low ping + good pot rate to die in 1 combo by a player with ping above 80. If the pot rate is lil bit increased to 6-7 per sec, we the low ping player will got maybe a chance to stay longer against lag dmg coming from the lagers.

U can share ur opinons but for me thats bad pvp system, in all other games LOW ping means WIN. Only in MU HIGH ping wins... which is senseless.

Brother thats why we have Pingzappers and wtfast to catch up to good ping players. me as a pinoy i dont see the ping problem ingame its just the way it is. its not the game fault we got good/bad net. so we are the one who needs to adjust to the game. not the game adjust to us. but goodluck to your suggestion

Best Regards,
Kritikal

 

[Stan]

Hello,
I would agree if the pot rate can be increased by 1 or 2 pots (not to remove the cap) let's ignore 1 combo kills but that way for me will be more equal in PvP with high ping users as they attack speed is quite faster than low ping ppl and that will help the fights to be more intense and last longer.

 

[Dimer]

Everytime it's the same deal - we remove the pot cap people complain,we put a pot cap and make the game regularly balanced - complains. What is the problem a duel ending in 5-10 seconds? It's more interesting now and more people have a chance to fight. I am against it because if we do it,others will complain. We struggled enough to find the most balanced system as of now with giving a chance to the biggest number of countries to have a shot at winning in pvp. I am an EU player obviously and don't complain because for the past 5 years this is the most balanced system we have.

About ZERO's post,why in heaven's name we should make all uber sets balanced and start to see everyone wearing one set??? The way it is now,making combinations is the best way we can have a variaty.

When you want something to change for the server or you want to make a suggestion which is worthwile you have to think big and think for everyone,not how only you like it.This is what a SUGGESTION means.

 

[RAMPAGE]

I have played here for many years now and to be honest the most balanced PvP system out of all these years is the one we have at the moment. Although its the most balanced, its nowhere near to perfect. The new uber sets have way too much damage and with the attempt to introduce more uber sets to the game you ended up buffing all of them since the new ones were stronger than the old ones ( im talking about maahes, sektmet etc.) and yet what u managed to do is a total chaos with 2 ubers being active at the same time... 65% dd is possible on BK's. That is way too much really. Before 50% was an issue cuz the fights ended too fast but now 65%. like wth...

Also, i kinda agree on the lag issue, basically at the moment lag plays a big role in the game. People who have lag are sometimes stonger than people who have absolutely stable connection which in my case is a big wtf to me. When does lag ever help in any other games except this one? That is broken and yet you just ignore the problem. When i made a report against a person who i believe was abusing lag ( maybe he didnt ) you just shared your opinions and just locked the thread without making a final decision and no further actions.

Personally im not enjoying the pvp system as it is atm but the pot rate is not the problem. Maybe the staff will figure something out but till then it will be a hell hole.

 

[Flippy]

I have played here for many years now and to be honest the most balanced PvP system out of all these years is the one we have at the moment. Although its the most balanced, its nowhere near to perfect. The new uber sets have way too much damage and with the attempt to introduce more uber sets to the game you ended up buffing all of them since the new ones were stronger than the old ones ( im talking about maahes, sektmet etc.) and yet what u managed to do is a total chaos with 2 ubers being active at the same time... 65% dd is possible on BK's. That is way too much really. Before 50% was an issue cuz the fights ended too fast but now 65%. like wth...

Also, i kinda agree on the lag issue, basically at the moment lag plays a big role in the game. People who have lag are sometimes stonger than people who have absolutely stable connection which in my case is a big wtf to me. When does lag ever help in any other games except this one? That is broken and yet you just ignore the problem. When i made a report against a person who i believe was abusing lag ( maybe he didnt ) you just shared your opinions and just locked the thread without making a final decision and no further actions.

Personally im not enjoying the pvp system as it is atm but the pot rate is not the problem. Maybe the staff will figure something out but till then it will be a hell hole.

Hi

The report you made was explained and i provided you the explanation and the servers the player uses in pingzapper.

Ballance is well made right now and all classes have a chance to kill other classes. Maybe the least powerful class right now is MG but...we increased it's HP so he can tank in CS (probably the hardest class to kill with proper gear).

Regarding DD of the sets yes u can reach 65% DD but that has nothing to do with the ballance. You have no idea how the combinations where made before we fixed them (75-80% DD). Combining 2 sets (same base type) is the best you can achieve and you don't need to spend 125-150 $ or more to be able to match the others. Play the game some more you will understand.
Regarding the pot cap it would be useless to increase it since it will create a bigger gap between players from different locations/continents.

Also...at the starting of your post you say this is the best ballance in all these years you spent here but 2 sentences after you say there is no ballance and you don't like it...are you bipolar?

 

[Trivela2]

Maybe hes trying to say that the pvp ( hp and dmg are cool ) but the mixin of sets ( the huge DD ) sux. Imo it also sux cuz every char looking like a gipsy to reach 65-70 DD... In the past hyons everywhere was 10000 times better than now... And nah thats not guud pvp system. If the uber power are lil bit lower it will be better. And dreams u says "Regarding the pot cap it would be useless to increase it since it will create a bigger gap between players from different locations/continents. " but I never said - NO POT LIMIT, I suggested a limit but just 1-2 pots bigger than now like 6-7 per sec not more.

 

[Moorse]

Hello! Sorry to go off-topic about the potrate, but i think this concerns our PVP system as well. I just found out that you can use these 4 sets (Vicious + Warrior(not fully activated) + Baldr + Maahes) and it will combine into this:

Totaled most outstanding options:
Double Damage +65% - Not really new, 65% is pretty common and u can even use 75% with sekhmet+vic+tyr+smok
Decrease Opponent's Defense Rating +90% - !!!!!!!! I can't accept this... really.
Increase Critical Dmg Rate + 50% - Not really overpowered compared to others
Increase Excellent dmg rate + 30% - Not really overpowered compared to others

And let's not forget the fact that it has shield, which makes you more tankier and gives you more room to wear SD. SD = great advantage for people who's good at comboing.

Since i have vic,baldr and warrior in different accounts(unfortunately, i cant use this combination), I can show the activated options with the specific number of parts. Maahes only has pants and shield so just imagine that.

Aaand here they are when combined, edited with paint(sry for sloppy edit) but enough to show that they're compatible.

I want to know what you guys can say about this, since semi ubers are accessible now, everyone can make this combination. I'm also not sure if the staff is already aware of this, Thank you very much!

 

[Lino]

Hello! Sorry to go off-topic about the potrate, but i think this concerns our PVP system as well. I just found out that you can use these 4 sets (Vicious + Warrior(not fully activated) + Baldr + Maahes) and it will combine into this:

Totaled most outstanding options:
Double Damage +65% - Not really new, 65% is pretty common and u can even use 75% with sekhmet+vic+tyr+smok
Decrease Opponent's Defense Rating +90% - !!!!!!!! I can't accept this... really.
Increase Critical Dmg Rate + 50% - Not really overpowered compared to others
Increase Excellent dmg rate + 30% - Not really overpowered compared to others

And let's not forget the fact that it has shield, which makes you more tankier and gives you more room to wear SD. SD = great advantage for people who's good at comboing.

Since i have vic,baldr and warrior in different accounts(unfortunately, i cant use this combination), I can show the activated options with the specific number of parts. Maahes only has pants and shield so just imagine that.

Aaand here they are when combined, edited with paint(sry for sloppy edit) but enough to show that they're compatible.

I want to know what you guys can say about this, since semi ubers are accessible now, everyone can make this combination. I'm also not sure if the staff is already aware of this, Thank you very much!

I could even get 85 DD on BK but im weak also in potrate xD. and the set could also join the ugliest sset event AHAHA

 

[-Andre.]

Hello! Sorry to go off-topic about the potrate, but i think this concerns our PVP system as well. I just found out that you can use these 4 sets (Vicious + Warrior(not fully activated) + Baldr + Maahes) and it will combine into this:

Totaled most outstanding options:
Double Damage +65% - Not really new, 65% is pretty common and u can even use 75% with sekhmet+vic+tyr+smok
Decrease Opponent's Defense Rating +90% - !!!!!!!! I can't accept this... really.
Increase Critical Dmg Rate + 50% - Not really overpowered compared to others
Increase Excellent dmg rate + 30% - Not really overpowered compared to others

And let's not forget the fact that it has shield, which makes you more tankier and gives you more room to wear SD. SD = great advantage for people who's good at comboing.

Since i have vic,baldr and warrior in different accounts(unfortunately, i cant use this combination), I can show the activated options with the specific number of parts. Maahes only has pants and shield so just imagine that.

Aaand here they are when combined, edited with paint(sry for sloppy edit) but enough to show that they're compatible.

I want to know what you guys can say about this, since semi ubers are accessible now, everyone can make this combination. I'm also not sure if the staff is already aware of this, Thank you very much!

this is the actual option

https://s8.postimg.org/ph5jhzecl/Screen_04_12-21_48_-0000.jpg

 

[Flippy]

Careful what u write USA loverboy Valy.

What you guys talk about here is BK Damage and nothing else.
As i said, when things where ballanced and PvP Lasted Longer, everyone cried about the BK dmg. After we buffed it back again you cry about PvP Ballance. Make up your mind.

Pot cap is now set with a delay of 200ms ( 1/5 of 1 second) and you can reach 4-4,5 pots /sec.
Increasing it to 6-7 would Make BK unkillable by other classes, DL with swell some kind of God and everything will get worse.

What we can do is to decrease the DD of BK sets a bit. 5% / set would go to some where 10-15% less DD in the combinations. You think that will solve the 1shot kills? NO !

This is fixed by altering the character Damage formula thing that every bk player cried. Lag abuse was almost equal to 0 then, pot cap was perfect, fights where longer etc etc etc.
Suggest something ...i dont mind at all but please think about everything when posting. Pure spam "i want that" / "make that" / "dont make that" is not helping anyone. How about we start over and we rethink this situation?
Moorse thx for the headsup, will look into that. If you find any other insane combination please let me know.

 

[Dimer]

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