Remove Achievements

[KOMODIN]

Hi there dear Staff and Infinity Community,
Im here to suggest remove Achievements.
I am explain everything step by step.
Before GuildBuff and Achievements, everyone has a kinf of same chance to make PvP.
Because of there was a Semi Ubers available. Which is who can't donate for uber sets.
Players, who can't donate, was hunting new jewels and making their Semi Uber Sets. To be equal with Uber Players(donators). It is everything okey untill here.
After GuildBuff and Achievements, there will be no chance to new players without donatoin. Maybe GuildBuff can handle with reseting but what about achievements ? Players need to spent 2 years to get full achievements which is insane.
Game System is force you to do donate or stay as a weak(noob) and I don't think players likes to stay as a weak(noob). I saw yesterday you guys talking about macros.
Also sir Resistant was saying

Server got emptied after we allowed macro back

What about new players sir ? Why new players doesnt have any chance on PvP like before ? Why new players need to donate ? Why its FUN SERVER if we can't get fun without donation ?

Even macro players doesnt have any chance against achievements hand players. I am asking; where is the fair play ? where is the 9999999x Fun Server ? Why I need to donate to be good in game ? If you say Poors do not deserve to play I am ok with it. But you build FUN server for what ?

Thanks for attention.
Best Regards.
KOMODIN.

 

[Duroy]

Take note. Without donation our server won't run!
Server needs maintenance etc. And it is not for free. Admin is shouldering the expenses so that we can use the server. Donation is just a little help that we can give to them. It is optional. Do a hard work in game hunt/complete achi etc. Or get a job and help the server by donating. Its your choice. There is no fun if server is down.

One last thing. U can hunt items in game like draco/jewels and collect row, u can trade them via donation.

 

[KOMODIN]

Hi jhaycruz, thanks for your reply. You totally didnt get my point. IM AGREE WITH DONATION FOR SETS. because non donator players like me can have a chance with semi ubers. About this achievement system im 0 against who had achievements.

I hope you understand what i meant.

about

Without donation our server won't run!

> please check this image DOWN-RIGHT in forum

Im gamers. So does it metter im donator or no ? Im just gamer.

Have a nice game. ( with donations )

 

[BeN]

you can make full achi if you make that small quests , it takes a while bit you can do it... every server needs donations , lots of players donated for achi , you think is ok to remove them now? thats a scam just so you know

 

[Jadde]

I was like you before , i don't like new system, but soon i changed my mind and now im adapted to this new system , i will give you an example on the most comon fights on pvp now, BK WITHOUT ARCHIVEMENNTS VS BK WITH ARCHIVEMENT , your posibility to kill a bk with archivement is 70 chance to defeat him without archivement, with archivement you have 80% chances to kill him , what is matter here is your potting rate and rights equipment against sets, combos , at this days theres mamy players with guild buff and you can easy take guild buff from any guild who have a character with 5000k resets...

 

[Lelouch]

like the people above me said we need donations to keep the server running...
and whatever gave u the idea that u need to donate for achi???u can get the achievements without having to donate by completing the requirements set...grinds can be very rewarding sometimes...
plus if u dont want to grind the said requirement u can also grind smth else like draco or GC and use them for BTA to get someone else to donate for ur achi...


if theres a will theres a way...

 

[decoder.dll]

Hello I want to say my opinion about it. we all know that many players is have donated for achivement and so it's not possible to remove them because they have donated for it. but it would be very good if it was possible to get the Achivement with gold credits for those players ( who dont have time to complete achivement or who dont want to donate for it and etc.) I remember venci have said that about it. he will be make achivements to buy via gold credits from webshop. I hope he will add that soon or in the future.

 

[#Maqa]

I agree with Kanerth*. I am is active player in the game. I have some friends in game. and when they fighting I seeing they cant kill achivement users almost they have no chance. I think if venci make Achivement and Guild Buff to buy with Gold Credits too. it will be good for everyone. gc price is can be high doesn't matter. for example Achivement = can be 150k Gold Credit and Guild Buff = 200k Gold Credit. with this way players will be more active in the server. it iwll increase server activity. that is my opinon.​

 

[Cloud!]

Hello,
Thank you for your time and your opinion, this i my take on it

After GuildBuff and Achievements, there will be no chance to new players without donatoin.

Do you have proof of this? because i see tons of new players having fun playing PvP in stad. Also i know some few players without achievements who can go against players with achievements. You just have to train for it.

Players need to spent 2 years to get full achievements which is insane.

Also i know some people did it after 6 months. People who grinded and worked hard for it. I agree with others that maybe it can be obtained some other way but to removed it completely because its hard i don't agree with.

Game System is force you to do donate or stay as a weak(noob) and I don't think players likes to stay as a weak(noob).

If that's what you believe then that's on you, but we don't force you to donate, and to imply that players who did not donate are weak/noob is very dangerous statement while these players may not have donated, some players grinded and worked hard to obtain items via doing events, hunting dracos and etc. I know people who worked hard for 1 month to hunt dracos and to trade it for VD. In my opinion this is just lazy thinking.

What about new players sir ? Why new players doesnt have any chance on PvP like before ? Why new players need to donate ?

I've already mentioned before, i know some players who have never donated, because they have no way of donating(not available where they are situated), worked hard and attained what they wanted. As for new players, we have staff members such as myself tries to involve and encourage new players to enjoy our events and give them tips on how to survive in the beginning, all you gotta do is ask.

Why its FUN SERVER if we can't get fun without donation ?

Like some others before me have said, running a server is not free. Our admin needs help to pay so our server stays alive. May i ask you sir, will you have fun not having internet because you did not pay for internet? and as i reiterate before, a lot of people did not have to donate, they just worked hard hunting and do it via that.

Even macro players doesnt have any chance against achievements hand players. I am asking; where is the fair play ? where is the 9999999x Fun Server ? Why I need to donate to be good in game ? If you say Poors do not deserve to play I am ok with it. But you build FUN server for what ?

First off, macro players doesn't event deserve to be in this server Fun server, i find its still fun without achievements, and also the server is created to be easier. Easier doesn't mean you don't have to work hard for anything.

Anyway, i did not make this post to attack you personally, i don't want you to think of that. I just analyze the points you made and counter it with my opinion. As it is my opinion, it doesn't mean that i am right. I don't want to discourage you to play but actually encourage you to see it in another way. A lot of people also worked hard, not donating, achieving what it is you want to take from them. Not all people with achievements donated, a lot of them played and grinded for it.

Anyway that's all from me today ^^ If you have any question, please don't hesitate to message me

Have a great day,
Ulap

 

[KhoyChi]

Hi jhaycruz, thanks for your reply. You totally didnt get my point. IM AGREE WITH DONATION FOR SETS. because non donator players like me can have a chance with semi ubers. About this achievement system im 0 against who had achievements.

I hope you understand what i meant.

about
> please check this image DOWN-RIGHT in forum

Im gamers. So does it metter im donator or no ? Im just gamer.

Have a nice game. ( with donations )

when i first play this game i have no money to donate as i remember its was 2013 ...
i just hunt item sell it to row ... and row convert to UBER Via donation ... its not easy to have achivements i know but u need determination to hunt . to get want you want ..

 

[*PowerPuffCorn*]

i have 3 character's with complete achievements and t2 sets and uber weapon's but i'm often get killed because of the pot rate etc where i'm from and specially when i'm again'ts macro user's or any 3rd program user's.. but still i'm trying to compete and have fun..we badly need strict and eye's to catch those cheaters.. : )

 

[Duroy]

Hi jhaycruz, thanks for your reply. You totally didnt get my point. IM AGREE WITH DONATION FOR SETS. because non donator players like me can have a chance with semi ubers. About this achievement system im 0 against who had achievements.

I hope you understand what i meant.

about
> please check this image DOWN-RIGHT in forum

Im gamers. So does it metter im donator or no ? Im just gamer.

Have a nice game. ( with donations )

Thank you for your reply as well.

I clearly understand your point, but there is some other way to get achievement. Grind sell row/draco vd. And u can get full achie without you spending your own money. U just have to work fir it. If u are too lazy to do the achievements quest i suggest u hunt draco/jewels and trade it for row and sell your row via donation

Bro i started from zero in this server. I hunt grind for jewels and items. I already have what i want before i decided to donate to help the server. I do donated achievement because im lazy to do it.

 

[XromAzero]

buhahahahhhhahahah

all donate for achi and you want remove ?
better back old rules and all will be good
thanks

 

[kriistap]

Hello, in my opinion achievements need to be here its important in pk ... But it will be very good if can buy for example 1 of achievement from all = X Gold Credits , a lot achievements is easy do with hands , staying afk and so one, but like 20gr (what take +/- 1 month) can buy for 10-20k gc. Or its how Admin seen it.

 

[Eye]

Achievement & Guildbuff systems were introduced and implemented not long ago, specifically on September 2018. The idea of removing these two was a bad idea and clearly impossible. Why? These mentioned system has been in the game for a year now and today you came up with this drastic suggestion which i found it absurd just because you stood no chance(or less chances) while doing PvP with players that has it? Of course, the achievement and guildbuff enhance your characters abilities such as damages and increased your h/p that only benefit to players who donated for it or earned it in the hard way by doing what’s non donator actually do which they invest their time to hunts,do quests and selling trade etc. By having said that, the server had to move forward with its new features like it or not just to keep the game fun, and someone has to donate or grinds for it in order to keep the game fun as it were also to ensure server is alive and running. Therefore, instead of complaining why dont start grinding to achieve something you really wanted in game? I know this may sounds a little bit harsh, but think about it.

 

[Halfdanjal]

buhahahahhhhahahah

all donate for achi and you want remove ?
better back old rules and all will be good
thanks

What are you talking about there, buddy?

 

[Shinobi]

Players, who can't donate, was hunting new jewels and making their Semi Uber Sets. To be equal with Uber Players(donators). It is everything okey untill here.

I'll give this point back to you, players who can't donate can then hunt achievements to match players who has them.

After GuildBuff and Achievements, there will be no chance to new players without donatoin. Maybe GuildBuff can handle with reseting but what about achievements ? Players need to spent 2 years to get full achievements which is insane.

I have to agree with the part that it takes too long to get full achievements BUT you don't even need to get full achievements. You just need 8-10 achievements completed to match the Attack Rate and Defense rate of players who have donated for achievements (these are the most important stats in achievements anyway). This took me less than 2 months to achieve (see the screenshot below for more info).
There are lots of achievement that can be done easily and while you are resetting. This actually made me think that it's easier to get achievement (important ones) than Guild buff, as of now I have 1331 resets.

Max life +10k, +4 edr, +4 crit is just for optimal stats but isn't NECESSARY.
I can even get "Success Mix in Chaos Machine" but I got to lazy clicking.

Game System is force you to do donate or stay as a weak(noob) and I don't think players likes to stay as a weak(noob). I saw yesterday you guys talking about macros.
Also sir Resistant was saying
What about new players sir ? Why new players doesnt have any chance on PvP like before ? Why new players need to donate ? Why its FUN SERVER if we can't get fun without donation ?

You are not forced to donate, I like to see the achievements is there to make you play the WHOLE game and not just PvP in arena which is in my opinion great. Target the easy/fast achievable ones and you can PvP vs full achievement players.

Even macro players doesnt have any chance against achievements hand players. I am asking; where is the fair play ? where is the 9999999x Fun Server ? Why I need to donate to be good in game ? If you say Poors do not deserve to play I am ok with it. But you build FUN server for what ?

"Fun" is subjective. If fun for you is being spoon fed then that's you.

All in all, the "2 years" you said could easily be gotten in around 2 months (the important stats) which isn't really that hard.
There is no need to remove achievements because it gives more options for players to play for and not just PvP in arena (although that would be the goal for getting achievements).

 

[Djinny]

[MENTION=38328]Dope*[/MENTION], [MENTION=35796]Koshax[/MENTION], [MENTION=34943]Sam[/MENTION] please stay ON TOPIC. This is available for others who want to post in this thread.

 

[iAmQWERTY]

Hello, Achievements and Guilldbuff is so important so why it`s needed to remove? And many players here are donated and donating more ppl out there. There are so many things to do so follow this steps to gain and to complete the quest go in this link

Link: Achievements Guide
https://wiki.infinitymu.net/index.php?title=Achievements

 

[Kontra™]

Hi there dear Staff and Infinity Community,
Im here to suggest remove Achievements.
I am explain everything step by step.
Before GuildBuff and Achievements, everyone has a kinf of same chance to make PvP.
Because of there was a Semi Ubers available. Which is who can't donate for uber sets.
Players, who can't donate, was hunting new jewels and making their Semi Uber Sets. To be equal with Uber Players(donators). It is everything okey untill here.
After GuildBuff and Achievements, there will be no chance to new players without donatoin. Maybe GuildBuff can handle with reseting but what about achievements ? Players need to spent 2 years to get full achievements which is insane.
Game System is force you to do donate or stay as a weak(noob) and I don't think players likes to stay as a weak(noob). I saw yesterday you guys talking about macros.
Also sir Resistant was saying
What about new players sir ? Why new players doesnt have any chance on PvP like before ? Why new players need to donate ? Why its FUN SERVER if we can't get fun without donation ?

Even macro players doesnt have any chance against achievements hand players. I am asking; where is the fair play ? where is the 9999999x Fun Server ? Why I need to donate to be good in game ? If you say Poors do not deserve to play I am ok with it. But you build FUN server for what ?

Thanks for attention.
Best Regards.
KOMODIN.

This is a matter of your dedication and perseverance to get stronger and to reach the level of gaming that you want. You have all the options to reach achievements at the same time earn jewels/items/dracos to trade for rows until such time you can buy ubers if you want. This is not about the donations or whatever reasons you can think of. Most players have been in the game for YEARS and have reached a point where they are unstoppable when it comes to PVP regardless if they are using macros or not. So again, its about YOU and not the money spent on the character. The achievements are attainable if you put your mind to it.