Like DeathGod said, it will be good if there is always a GM who is appearing in every major Event like the Castle Siege, for my point of view, if the other players saw a GM's in this event they might hesitate to use their cheats plus also if the other GM's who have secret character who are playing can see if any other players is using cheats. Letting them to play in big events should not be restricted, making a roster of GM's who will appear to CS have a point. I think if its OK to make a poll for this suggestion for the other players to know since its a suggested rule, and all players should know this because its a rule, right???
Suggestion for TGM-GM team
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Why they can't?... As I know They Only have 1 Character for their Game Master.And their Game Master Character is in the Admins Guild.. So what's up for their 4 more Character?. And they Only Allowed 2 Secrets Character to catch cheaters. How about those 2 more?.Every Game Master has their Own friends...Do they really need to change? i mean to be disguise just to catch cheaters?. Thats Why we have Fraps software so everybody can use it to catch cheaters. ^^)...idk about this s*its..anyways all Game Master cant catch All the cheaters even they if they will using their Secret Character. They also need our help catch them....
I still dont know all this Sh*TS HAHAH
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I agree with ExitiuM in some ways.
1. GM whom have their own guild and attacking CS can be biased in some cases involving their own guild members. This can be unfair to other players.
2. GM who participate CS as a participant cannot do their job since their focus is on winning the CS. Such as holding switch or sealling.
3. We are lacking GM who participate CS to keep it clean.
4. GM/TGM secret char should be inform to Venci or any HGM.
As in right now, servers are full of hacks (trust me when I say this). CS experience are not as fun as before since most of switchers are killed by 1 hit (SHers). What I don't agree with ExitiuM is that GM/TGM are restricted to play CS. They should be allowed to play CS with their guild, however, there should be some restriction such as:
1. A certain GM can only go CS once per 2 week. (Twice a month)
2. A certain GM have to take time shift in watching CS( (do his job) twice a month
My suggest solution are:
1. Have a roster time which will tell which GM will be on to keep watch at a certain CS. (As Clifford had suggested)
2. Create a CS Watch team whom will attend CS only for that purpose
CS Watch Team:
1. Not part of the staff team. (More like a community supporters or whatever you want to give them)
2. Will report any illegal activity to HGM only
3. He/She will not share any info about a certain CS to any TGM/GM (Whom will particpate or a participant of that CS) or he will face a demotion
4. People who are qualified for these are old players (aka Legends) whom can be on for CS and have nothing to do with any CS Guild at the given moment
5. Whom have a good pot rate so he can catch 1 hitter
6. Have the same power as a GM but ONLY IN CS
7. Act as a staff police during CS or any activity regarding CS
1. GM whom have their own guild and attacking CS can be biased in some cases involving their own guild members. This can be unfair to other players.
2. GM who participate CS as a participant cannot do their job since their focus is on winning the CS. Such as holding switch or sealling.
3. We are lacking GM who participate CS to keep it clean.
4. GM/TGM secret char should be inform to Venci or any HGM.
As in right now, servers are full of hacks (trust me when I say this). CS experience are not as fun as before since most of switchers are killed by 1 hit (SHers). What I don't agree with ExitiuM is that GM/TGM are restricted to play CS. They should be allowed to play CS with their guild, however, there should be some restriction such as:
1. A certain GM can only go CS once per 2 week. (Twice a month)
2. A certain GM have to take time shift in watching CS( (do his job) twice a month
My suggest solution are:
1. Have a roster time which will tell which GM will be on to keep watch at a certain CS. (As Clifford had suggested)
2. Create a CS Watch team whom will attend CS only for that purpose
CS Watch Team:
1. Not part of the staff team. (More like a community supporters or whatever you want to give them)
2. Will report any illegal activity to HGM only
3. He/She will not share any info about a certain CS to any TGM/GM (Whom will particpate or a participant of that CS) or he will face a demotion
4. People who are qualified for these are old players (aka Legends) whom can be on for CS and have nothing to do with any CS Guild at the given moment
5. Whom have a good pot rate so he can catch 1 hitter
6. Have the same power as a GM but ONLY IN CS
7. Act as a staff police during CS or any activity regarding CS
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That's the problem, you guys think just why we are GMS we have to watch ALL, we are not robots, even if the whole staff team go CS ppls can still cheats and if we dont saw we will be biased, I'm looking ppls saying about hacks but I never saw a report about those ppls in Hack Report in CS time? Just use the fraps and help us to catch the hackers lol We are trying even if we are playing it with our own char, Ive done two reports already at CS time, so can you all help us to catch hacks and stop to think we are abusing our powers? as I said we have a big gm staff team, so none action will be taken if only one gm agree/disagre, so no one will be protected in here and the server will work better if you all help us to catch those hackz0rs.
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The only problem with a watch team is they could also be biased which would result in the same cycle.
Watch team shouldn't be biased. Why?
1. They have no interest in CS
2. Can be secret of whom is part of it
3. No tag should be given on forum
4. The only person will know who are part of it is Venci or HGM
5. People whom are qualified for this position should be retired-GM
6. Team members can be varied from week to week
7. Have a term of service such as (3-4 weeks) like USA Presidency term
That is also a reason why there should be a CS Watch team. Which will lessen the job of a GM and let them enjoy their gameplay after all, they're still member/player of this community. A watch team will only be watching CS and that is their job.
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I still think there's not needed a ''especial'' team, you can catch hacks with ur own account and wihtout ranks, just download fraps, and keep recording when someone kill u fast, show ur set/stats and edit the video after cs to make it small (jsut take the time u die and showing stats/itens) and report it
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I still think there's not needed a ''especial'' team, you can catch hacks with ur own account and wihtout ranks, just download fraps, and keep recording when someone kill u fast, show ur set/stats and edit the video after cs to make it small (jsut take the time u die and showing stats/itens) and report it
Yes but heres a problem with that. If a normal player record another player thinking that he is using an illegal program and report it, he will get deny in many ways.
1. Insufficient evident
2. Isn't using any illegal program, it just lag or what so ever on.
3. Did not follow procedure
That can cause a lot of frustration because they're inexperience and might not be able to recognize a player using illegal program when they play. That is one of the reason why we need to have a Special team to catch hackers in CS or in our server. This can reduce the reports in report section and help keep our sever clean. (I know this is why we have a GM team but like the topic had said, GM are attending CS with their own guild and can be biased when given a judgement).
Why you not trying to recording cheaters at the cs? because you always trying to seal and to own CS for your friend JoPaA? right?
I think, if two or three of our GM's will watch at us in cs with their GM char, then you think someone will trying to use cheats....I think no, because they will have the fear of being banned.
Example : First "GM" - will watch 1st switch..... Second "GM"- will watch 2nd switch and third will watch at the crown and i think the CS will be clean without cheaters!
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Ye bro but what your saying is that the hackers will get banned because that team has a special rank and not because they actually caught them so I sense a lot of possible abuse from this "special" team. Normal players can report hackers cheaters and if its insufficient evidence it means well... insufficient evidence. I personally support the current process because I believe RESiSTANT + GM team checks big hack reports as RESiSTANT checked my last report and then waited for gm's opinion also.
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Let me explain it clearly. Its a special team without a special rank. They will act and work according to the Banning Procedure of the server. A player will not be banned just because this "special" team reported him. They are not god. They still have to discuss each and every case and follow the banning procedure which had laid out by Venci and HGM. This is for CS purpose only if the Suggested item #1 doesnt work.
Isn't that what GM's do though? I mean ban according to the guidelines and banning procedure that's stated out for them.
I see your point basically it is that you don't like the current banning's of the GM's but I don't think making a new team will fix that
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I see your point basically it is that you don't like the current banning's of the GM's but I don't think making a new team will fix that
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Isn't that what GM's do though? I mean ban according to the guidelines and banning procedure that's stated out for them.
I see your point basically it is that you don't like the current banning's of the GM's but I don't think making a new team will fix that
Yes but the problem is, the reason for this topic, GM are attending CS to play, not to do their job (I can be wrong) and can be biased base on judgement including their members using illegal programs (not saying that there are or aren't). Thats why I suggested a Special team which is similar to GM team mas a 2nd solution since most of our GM are playing CS.
Ye but in summary thats kinda bagging on the gm's integrity and honesty and I don't think that'll bring a solutions,
my suggestion is if CS is really that serious of an issue leave the reports to the GM's that do not attend.
Also it would be better to make GM's not to go on during CS to prevent any "issues" IF there are any.
my suggestion is if CS is really that serious of an issue leave the reports to the GM's that do not attend.
Also it would be better to make GM's not to go on during CS to prevent any "issues" IF there are any.
And you will wake up right? Even if the GMS are there, ppls will still use hacks, you should use ur brains and start to think that we can't record/catch 100% of cheaters, if we are there they can just dont hit us and dont move also, active kill the switchers and stop the hack, so what we'll gonna do? think more before repply, as Ive said the whole community should work together to catch the cheaters not only the GMS, also GMS aren't catch cheaters at all, we are here to make the servidor fun but we are not robots, also we are GMS but we are still PLAYERS and we like to play the CS too, or you will think just why I'm GM I have to dont have friends, dont participe on nothing? lol
And for you that's already saying that I'm sealing to Jopa, even doin it I record already two, so better talk what you know and dont start to suppose things
Classi, we are GMS but we are still players and also we like to play the events too.
As I said the whole comunnity need help and then we will can catch all hacks, also a especial team is not needed a normal player can down fraps and catch hacks.
I agree 80% with this, GMS shouldn't give them opinion if there's a member of him guild being reported, example: If someone report Luigui (FactioN AGM), I can't post my opinion and I should leave it for my team mates, but it wont change much coz we are not biased and we wont make diff judgement if theres our friend or not, cheaters are cheaters, friends are friends, and we are gms, so you can be sure we wont think twice in ban a ''cheater friend'' if we got him
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Well, on any time i said "GMs cant play on castle siege" ofc they are on their rights to do it.
I am talking about managing/leading on castle siege being a Game Master TGM or HGM
@Resi. I know you watch the GM logs sometimes "i confirmed it" . But i am not talking about "using their powers for taking advantage". I am talking about looking for hackers or buggers(exactly, doing their job m/w Castle siege warfare is being played) .for example "Game master Momo: Oh, my guild mate Pococo is using a hack. if I record and ban him, We may lose the siege, also my guild repu will decrease. then I will be quiet, and will act like a blind". is an example, but can happen.
Also, some ppl said that on InsaniaMu, this rule works
@satelite, yes i did it.
@nic:
I am talking about managing/leading on castle siege being a Game Master TGM or HGM
@Resi. I know you watch the GM logs sometimes "i confirmed it" . But i am not talking about "using their powers for taking advantage". I am talking about looking for hackers or buggers(exactly, doing their job m/w Castle siege warfare is being played) .for example "Game master Momo: Oh, my guild mate Pococo is using a hack. if I record and ban him, We may lose the siege, also my guild repu will decrease. then I will be quiet, and will act like a blind". is an example, but can happen.
Also, some ppl said that on InsaniaMu, this rule works
@satelite, yes i did it.
@nic:
something here sounds like what i am saying.
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I see your point. And I do agree with it, however, GMs are also players its their right to make guild and go CS. However way they use their power is up to them and should be punish if use it wrongly. That is why I suggested 2 ideas as a solution.
1. A schedule or shift of which GM keep watch at which CS (date)
2. Have a team that deals with keeping watch of CS.
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Game Master and HGM or whatevah are a players,
they its not prohibited to create a guild. right? and to play those event in our server.
well, much better if we have 2 to 3 GM's attend a CS to handle those hackers during in Castle Siege.
u know we have 5 GM's + 2HGM it is really enough staff atm.
even 1 staff never attend in Castle Siege Event.
they its not prohibited to create a guild. right? and to play those event in our server.
well, much better if we have 2 to 3 GM's attend a CS to handle those hackers during in Castle Siege.
u know we have 5 GM's + 2HGM it is really enough staff atm.
even 1 staff never attend in Castle Siege Event.
Hello Jade.
1 thing players can`t get. GMs can`t catch any hacker during CS with their GM Character! It is impossible! Hacker doesn`t hit to us, can`t kill as with weired Speed, they are not even hitting us(of cause they will not). GM Character is only for make them scared and turn of their hacking programs. But it will be just for 5 minutes, no more. When GM moved far away from them, they will -on their programs, clean house and off. BOOM!!! We couldn`t take any Video. But we can catch them with our secret characters and of cause it is not enough too. Who hates hackers, who wants to be clean of them, they have to help us, for to catch them.
And also I am thinking of 1 suggestion like:
Who reports and his/hers report will be successful, he/she will get some rewards like Credits. But I will discuss it with my Team Mates first.
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