Game Update Update 1/15/2023 - Class Balance Revision

[RESiSTANT]

Update 1/15/2023 - Class Balance Revision:
We have taken action against the situation with MG class being too weak vs SM & DL classes as many players were unhappy with the situation. Now you can play MG class and fully enjoy the game with your favorite class - Magic Gladiator. Few other fixes and updates have been applied to the gameserver. Please keep reading below.

Changelog 1:
Added +82,000 HP to the base HP of Magic Gladiator/Duel Master class;
Nerfed 10% of PVP damage given by Soul Master/Grand Master class to Magic Gladiator/Duel Master class;
Increased +80% PVP damage given by Magic Gladiator/Duel Master class to Soul Master/Grand Master class;
Increased +30% PVP damage given by Magic Gladiator/Duel Master class to Dark Lord/Lord Emperor class.
**Awaiting for player's feedbacks regarding MG vs DL, MG vs SM. You can test MG vs other classes as well and let us know your thoughts in this thread.

Recommendations for best PVP experience:
[PvP/] MG vs SM:
Option 1 (Average ping): Semi or Full Uber Gaion + Myuren+ Ares (recommended) All set DDR+7%, Critical Damage Increase +30 for weapon. [read more]
Option 2 (Average ping): Full Uber Virtus + Arthur + Kantata+ Moloch Sacrifice Sword / Staff of Myhos (Most Recommended and Used combo by our players before and now) [read more]
Option 3 (Decent ping): Semi or Full Uber Gaion + Myuren+ Ares (recommended) All set DDR+7%, Critical Damage Increase +30 for weapon. [read more]
Option 4 (Decent ping): Full Uber Virtus + Arthur + Kantata+ Moloch Sacrifice Sword / Staff of Myhos (Most Recommended and Used combo by our players before and now) [read more]
Option 5 (Very good ping): Any Uber Set combination from the above. Maximum of 2 set parts DDR+7% and 2 set parts SD Dec+5, Sword/Staff+ SD Dec
*the above recommendations are If you are playing with MG class and your opponent is SM.

(Tyr and Apis sets are not updated yet and we do not recommend but still acceptable wearing those if you are challenged to win in battle/duel/pvp, for PK fun they are OK and will be updated/improved once their sister uber sets are released in the upcoming big update)

[PvP/] SM vs MG
Option 1 (Average ping): Semi or Full Uber Alviss + Prometheus + Kantata (pair rings) All Set DDR+7%, Staff SD Dec+13 [read more]
Option 2 (Average ping): Full Uber Horus + Kantata (pair rings) All Set DDR+7%, Staff SD Dec+13 [read more]
Option 3 (Decent ping): Full Full Uber Alviss + Prometheus + Kantata (pair rings) 3 parts DDR+7% / 2 Parts SD Dec+5 [read more]
Option 4 (Decent ping): Full Uber Horus + Kantata (pair rings) 3 parts DDR+7% / 2 Parts SD Dec+5 [read more]
Option 5 (Very good ping): Any Uber Set combinations 4 set parts SD Dec+5, Sword/Staff SD Dec+13
*the above recommendations are if you are playing with SM class and your opponent is MG.

[PvP/] DL vs MG
Option 1 (any ping): Semi or Full Uber Nyx + Khons + Arthur + Kantata (pair rings) All Set DDR+7%, Arthur SD Dec+13 (Do NOT use harmony option Critical Damage Increase +30) [read more]
Option 2 (any ping): Semi or Full Uber Surtr + Arthur + Kantata (pair rings) All Set DDR+7%, Arthur SD Dec+13 (Do NOT use harmony option Critical Damage Increase +30) [read more]
Option 3 (any ping): Semi or Full Uber Agnis + Browii + Sacred - All Set DDR+7%, SMOK SD Dec+13 (Do NOT use harmony option Critical Damage Increase +30) [read more]
Option 4 (any ping): Full Uber Amun + Arthur + Kantata (pair rings) All Set DDR+7%, Arthur SD Dec+13 (Do NOT use harmony option Critical Damage Increase +30) (Most Recommended and Used combo by our players before and now). [read more]
*the above recommendations are If you are playing with DL class and your opponent is MG.
*same options from the above (MGvsSM) apply as well if you are MG and your opponent is DL.

PVP with MG vs other classes seems fair enough and we haven't updated MGvsElf or MGvsBK or MGvsMG PVP damage formulas.
**All the changes are made possible thanks to our unique Balance System for every class vs class.

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--- [Latency Legend]
--- ping/ms/latency to server Canada (where InfinityMU host is)
--- Very good ping: You live in Canada or close to Canada, Quebec or New York, your potting rate will be up to 6 potions per second depending on your CPU.
--- Decent ping: Decent ping/ms to the server, e.g. you live close to our server in Canada or US North/South/East or Pingzapper subscription to solve your latency issues to our server and you're having 4 to 5 potions per second depending on your CPU (out of 6 maximum possible due potions cool-down of 150ms per potion);
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--- Average ping: You have acceptable potting rate, normally 3 to 4 potions per second depending on your CPU.
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Recommendations for Pingzapper:
Use chicago 1 or New york servers in PZ. Try both and see the difference and use the one that suits you better.And remember before enabling PZ, if you are logged-in the game you should exit the whole client and start it again in order for PZ to tunnel the game and you must see message in PZ window that the game is tunneled at Server Chicago for example.

Changelog #2 :: 1/16/2023:
1. Dark Lord/Lord Emperor class have been nerfed with the following:
-30,000 HP;
(Please test the following update and report it here in this thread because this suited us for the tests DL vs other classes including MGvsDL pvp situation with the best set combinations)
2. Fixed an issue where Alviss+Poseidon sets can be combined with purpose of overpowered combination.
3. Updated the following Ancient sets: Atlas (client side ancient options correction which was already available in your Advanced Stats from server side data), Hathor, Horus, Poseidon, Gaion, Myuren and Virtus, read more a little below for the respective changes.
4. Added 380Lvl Option to Arrow-Viper Bow, Celestial Bow and Great Reign Crossbow.
5. Albatross Bow 380Lvl Option slightly nerfed due too much damage.
6. The above(recent) updates of ancient options for MG class sets wasn't updated successfully so please check again the PVP with your MG class. They are up-to-date now in Server-3 & Server-5. Your MG must be much more stronger now.
7. DL class have been reduced with -30,000 HP.
8. SM damage increased with 15% against DL class. (no other classes are affected by the change, only SMvsDL situation)
9. DL damage increased with 15% against SM class. (no other classes are affected by the change, only DLvsSM situation)
*Re-launch your game clients to receive the updates.
10. Second revision has been processed for the pvp damage between SM vs DL, MG vs DL and MG vs DL.
Update #3 - Jan 17, 2023:
Server-3 (Odin) have been updated with the following:
- Reduced dmg given by Elf to BK with -15% in order to have fair fights between Elf and BK.
Update #4 - January 20, 2023:
1. Reduced DMG given by MG class vs SM class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
2. Reduced DMG given by BM class vs MG class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
3. Increased DMG given by SM class vs DL class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
4. Disabled the ability of MG class to wear Horn of Uniria due overpowered - left click attack.
*PVP formula is updated only in server-3 (siege server is not affected).
*Horn of Uniria is disabled in all the servers(Server-1 (necron) , Server-3 (odin) and Server 5 (siege))
5. Balanced ELF vs MG (reduced/balanced the dmg executed from Elf to MG being too much, now it is all balanced and comfortable to play with your MG vs Elfs - your MG will not die that easily anymore)
6. Balanced MG vs ELF (increased the dmg executed from MG to ELF, now it is all balanced and comfortable to play with your MG vs Elves - your MG will have chance and do pretty good dmg to Elves now.)
7. Balanced SM vs SM (infinite fight problem is fixed, dmg formula between SM class have been increased).
8. Balanced BK vs SM (increased the dmg executed from SM to BK class - your SM will feel powerful and have pretty good chances vs BK, please note that you should use FULL DDR set vs BK for best results, your dmg will be still good if you don't use 2 sd parts).

Spoiler: Screenshots of the updated Bows & Crossbow

Virtus Destroyer Set

Ancient Options​
Increase Wizardry Dmg +120% Increase Stamina Recover Rate +250 Increase Maximum Stamina +250 Increases Critical Damage Rate 90% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 90% Double Damage Rate 85% Decreases opponent’s defense rating +55% Increase defensive skill when using shield weapons 40%​

Gaion Unicorn Set

Ancient Options​
Increases damage when using shield weapons 40% Increases Critical Damage Rate 55% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 40% Increases Wizardry Dmg +55% Decreases opponent’s defensive rating +25% Double Damage Rate 50%​

Myuren Unicorn Set

Ancient Options​
Increases Critical Damage Rate 45% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 40% Decreases opponent’s defensive rating +25% Double Damage Rate 45% Increases Wizardry Dmg +55%​

Poseidon Vengeance Set

Ancient Options​
Increases Critical Damage Rate 20% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 20% Increases Stamina Recover Rate +125 Increases Agility +125 Increase Wizardry Damage +45% Increase defensive skill when using shield weapons 18% Double Damage Rate 18% Decreases opponent’s defence rating +18% Increases Damage Success Rate +125​

Atlas Brave Set

Ancient Options​
Increase Damage +250 Increase Stamina Recover Rate +250 Increase Maximum Stamina +250 Increase Agility +250 Increases Critical Damage Rate 55% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 55% Double Damage Rate 66% Decreases opponent’s defense rating +40%​

Horus Imperial Set

Ancient Options​
Increases Damage +250 Increases Stamina Recover Rate +250 Increases Maximum Stamina +250 Increases Agility +250 Increases Critical Damage Rate 60% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 95% Double Damage Rate 85% Decreases opponent's defense rating +30% Increase Wizardry Dmg +120%​

Hathor Seraphim Set

Ancient Options​
Increases Skill Attacking Rate +250 Increases Stamina Recover Rate +250 Increases Maximum Stamina +250 Increases Agility +250 Increases Critical Damage Rate 100% Increases Excellent Damage Rate 100% Double Damage Rate 90% Decreases opponent’s defense rating +50% Increase damage when using two handed weapons +35%​

*Ancient Options have been updated in all servers. The class balance of SM, MG and DL have been applied only to Server-3. (Siege server is untouched).
*Apis and Tyr will not be updated for now since we are waiting for the big update. Tier-1 sister sets will be released to Tyr and Apis.
*Minor issues have been corrected on censorship system in-game. No more regular chats/words will be censored out from nowhere and we still keep updated the database of 500+ insulting phrases.
*Our wiki - https://wiki.infinitymu.net has been updated with all the changes.
*If you are currently logged-in, please re-launch your game client to get the latest update!

Thanks to everyone who submitted reports and feedbacks!

Special thanks to DORAEMON who spend his time on help to improve our server, testing and correcting / suggesting edits and testing assistance with me for hours.

Thank You,
The InfinityMU Team[/PvP][/PvP][/PvP]

 

[Brask007]

@RESiSTANT

Will DL get a nerf? DL with Ms is unkillable

 

[Brasko]

Hi Venci,

Can you please point out what got changed (also the values) in the ancient options?

Also, I would like to ask you if it's possible to add pink option on the Freya bow to make that set playable?

 

[RESiSTANT]

@RESiSTANT

Will DL get a nerf? DL with Ms is unkillable

You can use buff too: crit from dl/dmg from elf/def from elf/swell all those can be purchased from Buff master in-game or bring your friend or use multi client with your second or friend's account. Important to do combos as well... spam 123+e

 

[Deluxo]

I take this position, and will update according to the experience of the game.
This update sounds like great news.
Thank you for considering this class.

 

[#Deluxa]

I'm glad to see the mg character included in pvp, I think it will be quite fun.

 

[JuanFag]

It is good to see that the game is getting equal for every Char among the time, hope to have fun with MGs

 

[TRiGGER MAN]

Now ,i can totally use my MG char in PVP , thanks so much for the update

 

[iAmQWERTY]

Very Nice update by boss RESiSTANT everybody can use MG in PVP. Thank you so much!

 

[Trivela]

@RESiSTANT

Will DL get a nerf? DL with Ms is unkillable

I think Prince is right. DL’s HP is damn high always - 1v1 or party battles (with buffs), if any DL has good pots = Immportal. Weeks ago we were 3 full buffed BK’s and we couldnt kill a full buffed DL. Not sayin to nerf it as before, where we killed a DL in 2 combos, but now DL’s are kinda OP in such battles.

 

[NoName00101]

Very good update from the boss @RESiSTANT , one thing is that I consider the DL to be fine as it is. Players complain that they want to Nerf him because they can't kill him on DL with Buff vs 4 enemies with Buff too? If we see a PvP BK vs DL full Buff, most likely neither of them will die, so wouldn't it be better to balance the BM vs DL as well?

Post automatically merged: January 16th , 2023

I think Prince is right. DL’s HP is damn high always - 1v1 or party battles (with buffs), if any DL has good pots = Immportal. Weeks ago we were 3 full buffed BK’s and we couldnt kill a full buffed DL. Not sayin to nerf it as before, where we killed a DL in 2 combos, but now DL’s are kinda OP in such battles.

Very good update from the boss @RESiSTANT , one thing is that I consider the DL to be fine as it is. Players complain that they want to Nerf him because they can't kill him on DL with Buff vs 4 enemies with Buff too? If we see a PvP BK vs DL full Buff, most likely neither of them will die, so wouldn't it be better to balance the BM vs DL as well?

I think these two races are natural enemies throughout the history of Mu Online, and certain players are happy or upset about which one is better or not.

Even achieving a perfect balance and keeping all the players happy with the balance of characters is not an easy task, many think that it is just touching buttons and things take care of themselves and easy and it is not so, we appreciate your effort dad vencí <3

 

[Sayko]

Hi Venci,

Such a great update thanks for update and thanks for help @DORAEMON.

For a DL player i think this hp increase will good for DL because with out swell dl can easily die against other class.

I will try pvp on this evening and i will share my decision with detailed.

Best Regards,
Sayko

 

[-MijnWens.]

Special thanks to Mr. Venci and Doraemon who worked on this update. We are all happy that the game is getting better every day. This game represents a passion, a habit and a good time for all of us. Thank you again for providing us all this beautiful game..
@RESiSTANT @DORAEMON

 

[Brask007]

To all of you that saying "good adding HP on DL, DL is so soft"

An sm worth 100$ doing 3k damage on DL is that what you guys want? So you can just qwe and thrashtalk players with " weak, can't kill me noob JAJAJAJAJ"? and running on your horse

 

[Snoke-]

Good morning to all thanks to Mr. Resintent and DORAEMON for that update have a happy day.

 

[DOᖇᗩEᗰOᑎ]

Also, I would like to ask you if it's possible to add pink option on the Freya bow to make that set playable?

Your suggestion has been considered. Yes, its possible for to add pink opt on freya celestial bow .

 

[RESiSTANT]

Update Jan 16, 2023:
1. Added 380Lvl Option to Arrow-Viper Bow, Celestial Bow and Great Reign Crossbow.
2. Albatross Bow 380 slightly balanced due too much damage using 380 Option (Purple Option).
3. The above(recent) updates of ancient options for MG class sets wasn't updated successfully so please check again the PVP with your MG class. They are up-to-date now in Server-3 & Server-5. Your MG must be much more stronger now.
4. DL class have been reduced with -30,000 HP.
5. SM damage increased with 15% against DL class. (no other classes are affected by the change, only SMvsDL situation)
6. DL damage increased with 15% against SM class. (no other classes are affected by the change, only DLvsSM situation)
*Re-launch your game clients to receive the updates.

 

[Th-defender]

Sir Venci, Could you show the values that have been changed in the acc sets?

 

[JuanFag]

Update Jan 16, 2023:
1. Added 380Lvl Option to Arrow-Viper Bow, Celestial Bow and Great Reign Crossbow.
2. Albatross Bow 380 slightly balanced due too much damage using 380 Option (Purple Option).
3. The above(recent) updates of ancient options for MG class sets wasn't updated successfully so please check again the PVP with your MG class. They are up-to-date now in Server-3 & Server-5. Your MG must be much more stronger now.
*Re-launch your game clients to receive the updates.

Very nice sir @RESiSTANT now the elfs have even more options to select in PVP, also i am with @Th-defender if we can see what changed in the sets that would be great for coming decision

 

[RESiSTANT]

To all of you that saying "good adding HP on DL, DL is so soft"

An sm worth 100$ doing 3k damage on DL is that what you guys want? So you can just qwe and thrashtalk players with " weak, can't kill me noob JAJAJAJAJ"? and running on your horse

@Prince007
This is absolutely normal situation, because the DL you are playing against have Mana Shield. The class balance revision wasn't done considering buffs because usually players are solo Duel/ PVP vs other class. What happens in arena is normal MASS PK case and most players use buffs there to dominate others and you should take advantage as well of DMG buffs by elf or dl in this case if your opponent is using Mana Shield. Also try to use +2sd set parts for your set. In your video report your potting rate is very low + You are not doing combos at all and obviously you are not playing SM properly. Using just Ice Storm is not going to work. I will record you videos as well and I will show you how I play SM vs DL, MG vs DL and SM vs MG. Also you are wearing Non working Set MIX ----> Do NOT use Apollo Helm+Apollo Ring+Apollo Pendant+Horus set because you will have less Double DMG Rate %. I will show you in the video, just watch the Advanced Stats and watch the video carefully, my potting speed , set parts and 123+e the usual spam for combo as you are playing MG, SM or DL /it doesn't matter. You should use full uber alviss+prometheus / full uber horus set + 2 parts SD and 3 parts DDR. Do not combine any set unless its the sister set. E.g. Apollo+banek / Alviss+prome etc.
Every time you are changing set combination make sure to compare it with your Advanced Stats and check for DoubleDamageRate% increase/decrease difference and IgnoreDefRate% increase/decrease difference.


Videos as I promised:
SM vs DL

599.86 MB file on MEGA

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SM vs DL

120.29 MB file on MEGA

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MG vs DL

156.04 MB file on MEGA

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DL vs SM

560.92 MB file on MEGA

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Tests are done using pingzapper on DL and SM & MG classes. (Tests were more than hour and a half, videos are just short with the best highlights). We both have 4-5 pots /sec. Check my gamestyle and equipment and take notes.
Sets used in the tests:
SM equipments: Uber Horus+3DDR+2SD+SD Dec for staff+pair kantata
DL equipments: Uber AmunFullDDR+Arthur+SDDec+pair kantata
MG equipment: Uber VirtusFullDDR+ArthurCrit+MolochSacrifice+SDDec+pair kantata
All classes had full achievements+infinity buff.

Top 3 rumors on the server that doesn't work and you shouldn't ever listen to:
1. Wearing pair Kantata rings +10sta instead of +5 STA. (difference is ZERO, it just adds+5 hp more, compared to 32,767 stats and High rate server you get nothing from that option. Most important option in pair Kantata is the option Double Damage Rate + 10% and absolutely nothing else.)
2. Combining Horus+Apollo (you even get less Double Damage Rate % which is the most important option paired with Ignore Defence Rate %)
3. Wearing 3rd Wings+dmg or HP. (makes no difference just wear full 3rd class wings and you're good.)

I'm pointing out your mistakes on your SM setup so you can try to fix them.